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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay•com>
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] deterministic transaction expiration
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:15:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJHLa0OQJEvQht_chF1gVG_BOwp=DW0zOOo3VE_acZonsSguWw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63a80796-609e-43f5-9280-4cd8cf5d2648@email.android.com>

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A fork is not necessarily required, if you are talking about information
that deals primarily with pre-consensus mempool behavior.  You can make a
"network TX" with some information that is digitally signed, yet discarded
before it reaches miners.


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org> wrote:

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> On 6 August 2014 08:17:02 GMT-07:00, Christian Decker <
> decker.christian@gmail•com> wrote:
> >+1 for the new field, overloading fields with new meaning is definitely
> >not
> >a good idea.
>
> To add a new field the best way to do it is create a new, parallel, tx
> format where fields are committed by merkle radix tree in an extensible and
> provable way. You'd then commit to that tree with a mandatory OP_RETURN
> output in the last txout, or with a new merkle root.
>
> Changing the tx format itself in a hard-fork is needlessly disruptive, and
> in this case, wastes opportunities for improvement.
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-- 
Jeff Garzik
Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-06 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-01  0:58 Kaz Wesley
2014-08-01  1:06 ` Peter Todd
2014-08-01  1:37   ` Kaz Wesley
2014-08-01  1:38 ` Matt Whitlock
2014-08-01  2:28   ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-08-01  3:26     ` Matt Whitlock
2014-08-01  3:31       ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-08-05 18:01         ` Alex Mizrahi
2014-08-02  0:36 ` Tom Harding
2014-08-05 17:02   ` Flavien Charlon
2014-08-05 17:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-05 18:54   ` Mike Hearn
2014-08-05 19:08     ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-05 19:10   ` Kaz Wesley
2014-08-05 19:36     ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06  4:01     ` Tom Harding
2014-08-06 12:55       ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 13:54         ` Mike Hearn
2014-08-06 14:44           ` Tom Harding
2014-08-06 15:08             ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 15:17               ` Christian Decker
2014-08-06 15:42                 ` Peter Todd
2014-08-06 16:15                   ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2014-08-06 17:02                     ` Tom Harding
2014-08-06 17:21                       ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-08-06 17:34                         ` Peter Todd
2014-08-06 17:24                       ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 16:31                   ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-08-06 17:20                     ` Peter Todd
2014-08-06 17:30                       ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-08-06 17:38                         ` Peter Todd
2014-08-08 17:38                 ` Tom Harding
2014-08-08 18:13                   ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-08 18:42                     ` Kaz Wesley

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