From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay•com>
To: Drak <drak@zikula•org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Multisign payment protocol?
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:12:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJHLa0PNW9FP7btMphLK+GxKo5u0Seiw5tbV_dT6ghg9YjH4yQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANAnSg3Bt0e7CfUcJXe96xhU6nqif9ey_vurZMZkSa9OHjHStw@mail.gmail.com>
Payment protocol currently supports payments to multi-sig addresses.
In general, almost all wallet software sucks RE multisig. Just try
any of these actions in Bitcoin-Qt or another wallet:
* obtain a public key you control, given a bitcoin address
* easily share public keys
* easily share partially signed transactions
* build a P2SH multisig address from public keys, reliably. Right
now, participants have no idea about pubkey order, leading various N
possible P2SH addresses, given a list of public keys. Reproducing the
P2SH address is harder than it should be.
* track "partially controlled" balance (balance of coins of which you
may sign at least 1 of N)
* support for remote oracles and services that provide 1-of-N signatures
etc.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Drak <drak@zikula•org> wrote:
> I was wondering if there would be merit in a kind of BIP for a payment
> protocol using multisig?
>
> Currently, setting up a multisig is quite a feat. Users have to exchange
> public keys, work out how to get the public keys from their addresses. If
> one of the parties are not savvy enough, an malicious party could easily be
> setup that was 2 of 3 instead of 2 of 2 where the malicious party generates
> the multisig address+script and thus be able to run off with funds anyway.
>
> It's also terribly complex to generate and keep track of. There's been a
> nice attempt at creating an browser interface at coinb.in/multisig but it
> still lacks the kind of ease with created by the payment protocol. If there
> was a BIP then it would go a long way to aiding future usability of multisig
> wallet implementations.
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Drak
>
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-10 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-10 17:39 Drak
2014-03-10 17:49 ` Gavin Andresen
2014-03-10 18:01 ` Alan Reiner
2014-03-11 0:04 ` kjj
2014-03-11 0:09 ` Alan Reiner
2014-03-11 0:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-11 1:15 ` Gavin Andresen
2014-03-11 11:43 ` Drak
2014-03-11 12:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-11 13:51 ` Gavin Andresen
2014-03-11 14:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-11 14:23 ` Gavin Andresen
2014-03-11 14:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-11 14:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-11 14:53 ` Gary Rowe
2014-03-11 15:18 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-11 17:11 ` Miron
2014-03-11 15:37 ` Thomas Voegtlin
2014-03-11 21:12 ` Peter Todd
2014-03-11 17:41 ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2014-03-12 0:29 ` Jean-Pierre Rupp
2014-03-12 2:35 ` Alan Reiner
2014-03-12 2:48 ` Eric Lombrozo
2014-03-12 9:48 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-12 15:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-12 16:02 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-12 16:09 ` Drak
2014-03-12 16:14 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-12 16:24 ` Peter Todd
2014-03-12 16:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-12 16:41 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-12 16:47 ` Peter Todd
2014-03-12 16:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-10 17:50 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-10 18:12 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
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