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From: slush <slush@centrum•cz>
To: Wladimir <laanwj@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoind-in-background mode for SPV wallets
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 22:50:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJna-HjyFbCdQjVZJSJ2AYx10EJd-ZJa=zmdJqveMP+ASgwygA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+s+GJA0EqvZB3Bi75W+-Pfkjg=3=-wafjSBPMCnd_vbi2F-0w@mail.gmail.com>

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We definitely *need* lightweight bitcoin router / "core" which can be
easily deployed anywhere. No disagreement here.

I just wanted to remind that there're actually much more running nodes
*already* and maybe converting those hidden nodes to publicly reachable
nodes may be way easier than attracting fresh instances.

To the idea of bundled core with SPV clients - it won't improve anything,
in my opinion. SPV wallets are not running long-term (maybe Multibit team
has any better stats) so blockchain catching will turn the computer to be
unusable everytime user starts the wallet; that's exactly the reason why
people choose SPV wallets over full blockchain wallets.

Not saying that SPV clients usually aren't reachable from outside, which
turns the topic back to my ideas about motivating users to expose their
existing instances over Internet.

Marek

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Wladimir <laanwj@gmail•com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:12 PM, slush <slush@centrum•cz> wrote:
>
>> Maybe there're other ideas how to improve current situation without needs
>> of reworking the architecture.
>>
>
> Nothing I've proposed here would require larger changes to the
> architecture then were already planned. After SPV lands we are going to
> split off the wallet, and that will need an interface to an bitcoind to
> allow 'running with full node'. If that can be generalized to be useful for
> other (SPV) clients as well, that would be useful, hence I asked for input.
>
> It of course doesn't preclude also looking for other solutions.
>
> Wladimir
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-09 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-09 15:29 Wladimir
2014-04-09 15:37 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-09 15:41 ` Natanael
2014-04-09 15:54   ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-09 16:09     ` Thomas Voegtlin
2014-04-09 19:25       ` Wladimir
2014-04-10  6:04         ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-10 11:09           ` Wladimir
2014-04-10 11:29             ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10 11:32             ` Pieter Wuille
2014-04-10 11:43               ` Peter Todd
2014-04-10 11:50               ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-10 11:54                 ` Peter Todd
2014-04-10 17:30                   ` Tier Nolan
2014-04-11 16:54                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-05-04 21:11                       ` Tier Nolan
2014-04-09 17:31   ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 15:42 ` Brian Hoffman
2014-04-09 15:57   ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-09 16:09     ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-09 15:47       ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-09 16:27         ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-09 17:46           ` Peter Todd
2014-04-09 17:50             ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-09 18:00               ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-09 18:19                 ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 18:35                   ` Justus Ranvier
2014-04-09 18:46                     ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 18:50                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-09 18:58                       ` Justus Ranvier
2014-04-09 19:33                         ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-09 20:12                           ` slush
2014-04-09 20:31                             ` slush
2014-04-09 20:36                               ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-09 21:04                                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-09 20:37                               ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 20:35                             ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 20:50                               ` slush [this message]
2014-04-09 20:55                             ` Laszlo Hanyecz
2014-04-10  6:38                             ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10  6:50                               ` Wladimir
2014-04-10  7:09                                 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10  9:33                                   ` Peter Todd
2014-04-10  7:10                                 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-10  9:17                                   ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10  9:39                                     ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-10 10:40                                       ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10 10:44                                         ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-10 11:36                                           ` Peter Todd
2014-04-10 11:45                                             ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10 11:52                                               ` Peter Todd
2014-04-10  9:47                                     ` Peter Todd
2014-04-09 18:04               ` Peter Todd
     [not found]   ` <CA+s+GJBpvqqu=XEojyekx5su+JfYLwz+zsbo8L0=5t6s-_b33w@mail.gmail.com>
2014-04-09 17:35     ` [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: " Wladimir
2014-04-09 16:03 ` [Bitcoin-development] " Peter Todd
2014-04-09 17:33   ` Alex Mizrahi
2014-04-09 17:38     ` Wladimir
2014-04-09 17:38     ` Peter Todd
2014-04-09 18:35 ` Kevin

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