Re: [bitcoin-dev] Segwit2Mb - combined soft/hard fork - Request For Comments

From: Erik Aronesty <earonesty@gmail•com>
To: Btc Drak <btcdrak@gmail•com>,
	 Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Segwit2Mb - combined soft/hard fork - Request For Comments
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 22:27:34 -0400	[thread overview]
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I personally appreciate the minimal changes, and often encourage
development to be done this way - when it needs to be released quickly.
But does this need to be released quickly?

- maybe the proposal should be renamed segwit 8mb and be discussed solely
in terms of block weights.

- a high consensus hard fork is probably preferable to a low consensus soft
fork, however there is nothing to indicate that segwit as it stands isnt
already very high consensus except for a handful of pool operators
protecting fee income.

- miners who currently object to segwit while pretending to like larger
blocks will find some excuse to object to this too.

- Given the challenges miners seem to have in flipping bits, I expect any
fork that requires 95pct hash power to be vaporware.

On Apr 3, 2017 11:02 AM, "Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev" <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:09 PM, Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> The hard-fork is conditional to 95% of the hashing power has approved the
>> segwit2mb soft-fork and the segwit soft-fork has been activated (which
>> should occur 2016 blocks after its lock-in time)
>>
>
> Miners signalling they have upgraded by flipping a bit in the nVersion
> field has little relevance in a hard fork. If 100% of the hash power
> indicates they are running this proposal, but the nodes don't upgrade, what
> will happen?
>
> For the record, I actually talk a lot about hard forks with various
> developers and am very interested in the research that Johnson in
> particular is pioneering. However, I have failed to understand your point
> about 95% miner signalling in relation to a hard fork, so I am eagerly
> awaiting your explanation.
>
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