On 6 June 2013 21:59, Andreas M. Antonopoulos wrote: > Is there any consideration given to the fact that bitcoin can operate as a > platform for many other services, if it is able to be neutral to payload, > as long as the fee is paid for the transaction size? > > Unless I have misunderstood this discussion, it seems to me that this is a > bit like saying in 1990 "IP Is only for email, the majority of users want > email, we shouldn't allow video, voice or images". Ooops, there goes the > web. > > Is it possible to solve this by solving the issue of provably un-spendable > outputs without foreclosing on the possibility of other types of > transaction payloads (ie, not money), that would open the possibility for a > myriad of layered apps above? For example, hashes of content that is > external to bitcoin, that people want to pay to have timestamped in the > blockchain, as provably unspendable outputs. > > The social compact is to accept transaction for fee. I think it is a major > mistake to make decisions that discriminate on the content of the > transaction, saying that some uses are not appropriate. If the fee is paid > and it covers the size of the transaction, why would it matter if it is not > a payment? > > I could be totally misreading this thread, too, so please allow me some > slack if I have! > +1 we're still early into the bitcoin story ... unexpected reuse should not be ruled out ... > > > > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Luke-Jr wrote: > >> On Saturday, June 01, 2013 7:30:36 PM Peter Todd wrote: >> > scriptPubKey: OP_TRUE >> > >> > ... >> > Along with that change anyone-can-spend outputs should be make >> IsStandard() >> > so they will be relayed. >> >> Data does not belong in the blockchain. People running nodes have all >> implicitly agreed to store the blocks for financial purposes, and storing >> data >> is a violation of that social contract. Proof-of-stake may be arguably >> financial, but I'm sure there must be a way to do it without spamming >> people >> against their consent. >> >> > The alternative is sacrifices to unspendable outputs, which is very >> > undesirable compared to sending the money to miners to further >> > strengthen the security of the network. >> >> The alternative is to make other standard outputs unable to store data as >> well. >> >> Luke >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: >> 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations >> 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services >> 3. A single system of record for all IT processes >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j >> _______________________________________________ >> Bitcoin-development mailing list >> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > >