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From: Gary Rowe <g.rowe@froot•co.uk>
To: Bitcoin Development List <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: [Bitcoin-development]  BIP 21 (modification BIP 20)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:50:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKm8k+1VFYSt7115KKGy5C7orFoU-N=8vfkQ_sc8onfQq96_Ww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

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Hi all,

Speaking on behalf of the MultiBit team (Jim's currently on holiday), we
will not be supporting Tonal Bitcoins anytime soon. Therefore we back the
BIP 21 proposal.

At present MultiBit does not support the "message" or "send" fields but we
would be happy to add this functionality as required.

Regarding the idea of a signed URI, it is appealing, however, it may not
work. If I understand it correctly, the main idea appears to be to protect
a URI from malicious replacement (at MultiBit we were concerned that a
Bitcoin "swatch" would be subjected to the same attack vector and we came
up with the term "swatch swabbing"). If a Bitcoin URI is served up from a
trusted source (e.g. a merchant site over HTTPS) then there is no need for
signing. It should be assumed that the merchant will offer a clean room
payment area so that no untrusted JavaScript will creep into the final page
and wreak havoc.

It would seem that in any situation where the attacker has complete control
over the content of the URI they will be able to successfully swab it to
match their own fraudulent address. Imagine attempting to protect a QR code
posted against a pole attempting to get BTC donations for a charity. How
long before that was replaced by a different version operated by the
thieves with good signatures all round?

Of course, I may have misunderstood so I would welcome further discussion.

One field that the MultiBit team would like to add to the BIP 21 proposal
is "expires" which would contain an ISO8601 formatted date/time in UTC
(e.g. "2000-01-01T23:59:59Z"). This would allow merchants to issue Bitcoin
URIs that would expose them to a currency/inventory risk for a defined
period of time.

Kind regards,

Gary Rowe


PS First post to this list

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             reply	other threads:[~2012-01-30 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-30 18:50 Gary Rowe [this message]
2012-01-30 18:56 ` Luke-Jr
2012-01-30 19:13   ` Gary Rowe
2012-01-30 19:17     ` Luke-Jr
2012-01-31  6:54 ` thomasV1
2012-01-31 13:12   ` Gavin Andresen
2012-01-31 13:20     ` Cameron Garnham
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-01-31 10:39 [Bitcoin-development] BIP 21 (modification BIP 20)] Pieter Wuille
2012-01-30 18:07 [Bitcoin-development] BIP 21 (modification BIP 20) thomasV1
2012-01-30 18:44 ` Luke-Jr
2012-01-29 23:55 Amir Taaki
2012-01-30  9:13 ` Wladimir
2012-01-31  8:23 ` Andreas Schildbach
2012-01-31  8:35   ` Wladimir
2012-01-31 10:01     ` Gary Rowe
2012-01-31 10:22       ` Wladimir
2012-01-31 11:55         ` Andreas Schildbach
2012-01-31 12:03           ` Wladimir
2012-01-31 10:44       ` Pieter Wuille

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