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* [Bitcoin-development] Issue / Pulls timers
@ 2011-09-20  0:20 Alex Waters
  2011-09-20 18:54 ` Jeff Garzik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Alex Waters @ 2011-09-20  0:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bitcoin-development

I would like to propose adding timers to the pulls / issues:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/523

"From time to time a pull request will become outdated. If this occurs, and
the pull is no longer automatically mergeable; it will be closed after 15
days. This can be avoided by rebasing the commit. Pull requests closed in this
manner will have their corresponding issue labeled stagnant.

Non-bug issues with no commits will be closed after 15 days from their
last activity.
Issues closed in this manner will be labeled stale.

Requests to reopen closed pull requests and/or issues can be submitted to
QA@BitcoinTesting•org. "

This will help cut down on the abandoned / stagnant pulls and issues.
It will also focus attention on priority items, and phase out unwanted changes.

Sidenote: QA@BitcoinTesting•org is working, unlike QA@Bitcoin•org

-Alex



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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Issue / Pulls timers
  2011-09-20  0:20 [Bitcoin-development] Issue / Pulls timers Alex Waters
@ 2011-09-20 18:54 ` Jeff Garzik
  2011-09-21  2:34   ` Alex Waters
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Jeff Garzik @ 2011-09-20 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alex Waters; +Cc: bitcoin-development

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Alex Waters <ampedal@gmail•com> wrote:
> I would like to propose adding timers to the pulls / issues:
>
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/523
>
> "From time to time a pull request will become outdated. If this occurs, and
> the pull is no longer automatically mergeable; it will be closed after 15
> days. This can be avoided by rebasing the commit. Pull requests closed in this
> manner will have their corresponding issue labeled stagnant.
>
> Non-bug issues with no commits will be closed after 15 days from their
> last activity.
> Issues closed in this manner will be labeled stale.
>
> Requests to reopen closed pull requests and/or issues can be submitted to
> QA@BitcoinTesting•org. "


We need to avoid a user/contributor experience of:  "my pull request
was abruptly closed with no warning"

Contributors might not track the state of the tree on a day-to-day
basis.  Thus, following the example of bugzilla.redhat.com and many
other "tracker" applications, outdated issues first initiate an
automated warning email -- usually by adding a comment to the bug
report -- that describes the policy, why the policy (closing outdated
reports) exists, and how to avoid automated report closure.

In our case, this means a "we will close pull req, unless you update
this commit in 15 days" comment should be added to the pull req.  The
comment should describe in broad terms, with links, how to rebase a
commit, what standard expectations are, etc.

Closing with no warning should be avoided.

-- 
Jeff Garzik
exMULTI, Inc.
jgarzik@exmulti•com



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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Issue / Pulls timers
  2011-09-20 18:54 ` Jeff Garzik
@ 2011-09-21  2:34   ` Alex Waters
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Alex Waters @ 2011-09-21  2:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jeff Garzik; +Cc: bitcoin-development

> We need to avoid a user/contributor experience of:  "my pull request
> was abruptly closed with no warning"

I agree, I definitely want to go about this in a non-jerk way. I would
be pissed if I spent hours coding something, and it was put on the
back burner and eventually closed (especially without notice). The
wording and process could use refinement.

> Contributors might not track the state of the tree on a day-to-day
> basis.  Thus, following the example of bugzilla.redhat.com and many
> other "tracker" applications, outdated issues first initiate an
> automated warning email -- usually by adding a comment to the bug
> report -- that describes the policy, why the policy (closing outdated
> reports) exists, and how to avoid automated report closure.

I can definitely do this, and give a wordy notice before I start the
timer. I will write up a message that links to a rebase walkthrough
(any suggestions? I think Gavin has one somewhere...), I would like it
to be more detailed than GitHub's walk-through.

My main reason for pushing this is that it will help clear out some of
the older pulls/issues that exist right now. I'm hoping that in the
future, the QA process will be good enough that pulls/issues won't
fall behind from lack of testing - and the timers will be used very
sparingly. It should only be in place to sort out the pulls/issues
that the majority doesn't want included in the client.



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