From: Andrew <onelineproof@gmail•com>
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Scaling Bitcoin with Subchains
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:43:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL8tG==iJwqPBVTDap=8TC9eCUz4ExfxtGz6p75FXbQJXaByMQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150616181724.GA4055@muck>
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On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org> wrote:
> Merge-mined sidechains are not a scaling solution any more than SPV is a
> scaling solution because they don't solve the scaling problem for
> miners.
>
> Some kind of treechain like sidechain / subchains where what part of the
> tree miners can mine is constrained to preserve fairness could be both a
> scaling solution, and decentralized, but no-one has come up with a solid
> design yet that's ready for production. (my treechains don't qualify for
> transactions yet; maybe for other proof-of-publication uses)
>
>
Well doesn't my proposal solve the miner decentralization problem. Only the
direct parent and children chains are merge mined. To be more clear, let
the top chain to have level 1. Each chain that is a child of a chain of
level n has level n+1. For any chain C, a block is accepted if the hash of
its header has an appropriate number of trailing zeros (as usual). It can
also be accepted with special transactions as I will explain. Let C be a
chain of level n. Let C0,C1,....,C9 be its children (each of level n+1).
For any i in {0,1,...,9}, any solution to the mining problem of C can be
inserted as a special transaction inside Ci and this enables the block to
be accepted in Ci (so C and C0,C1,...,C9 are merge mined. But, for any i in
{0,1,...,9} and any j in {0,1,...,9}, any solution to the mining problem of
C cannot be inserted as a special transaction inside of child Cij of Ci. So
that means all of the chains are not merge mined, only localised parts,
right?
By the way, we can eventually get rid of the block size 1 MB limit by
requiring more than just the header to be hashed, but that can be done in
the future as soft fork with sidechains, and is a side topic.
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-20 2:55 Andrew
2015-05-25 18:15 ` Mike Hearn
2015-05-28 2:16 ` Andrew
2015-05-28 2:34 ` Bryan Bishop
2015-06-13 14:39 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-13 17:55 ` Andrew
2015-06-14 6:55 ` Martin Schwarz
2015-06-15 17:05 ` Andrew
2015-06-15 17:09 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-15 17:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-16 18:17 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-16 18:43 ` Andrew [this message]
2015-06-16 19:04 ` Andrew
2015-06-15 17:18 ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15 18:00 ` Andrew
2015-06-16 15:23 ` Andrew
2015-06-15 18:01 ` Jeff Garzik
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