Hi Jim,

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Jim <jim618@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:

Alex: Yes I think most users migrate to blockchain.info or,
more recently coinbase.com. They are both good wallets
but I'd like to keep Bitcoin as P2P as possible.

Guys, being a late comer/outsider (I got into bitcoin in early 2012), I can tell you that this particular asylum is definitely run by its inmates. 

What all the nerdy devs (and I am one so I know) seem unable to comprehend, is that regular people out there don't wanna learn all this new stuff and new terminology they simply have no attention span for it.

Simply channelling them to a decent client that

1. Just works (no blockchain downloads and no re-sync)
2. Allows to retain control of the private keys

Would be HUGE for mass adoption.

Old tired argument about "Bitcoin needs your nodes", so we'll channel you to get bitcoin-qt client is both manipulative and unnecessary (there's plenty of nodes and NAT'ed home nodes which don't mine are mostly useless anyways)

P.S. coinbase.com is just another trust-me setup takes your coins in exchange for IOUs, whereas blockchain.info does let you to retain control of your private keys.

P.P.S. The reason why coinbase has gotten so big is precisely because they don't trouble regular lawyers and doctors with all the nonsense but simply give them a 
"buy" and a "sell" button.

 

 
Luke-Jr
I think you are right here on the number of full nodes versus
SPV nodes.
I don't think we even know yet what are the working ratios of
full nodes to SPV nodes. I haven't seen anybody do any
analysis on this.

I doubt multibit will ever participate in the Bitcoin network
other than as an SPV client. All the optimisation is to reduce
data traffic - it is effectively a mobile wallet that happens to
live on a desktop. It is not really intended to be more than
"a wallet for regular people to store and spend their bitcoin".

In English the nomenclature for direction of the transactions
is: "Sent to" and "Received with". To be honest I
haven't transliterated the localisation files to check other
language packs but the localisers are pretty good in my
experience.





On Thu, Jun 27, 2013, at 07:41 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Luke-Jr <luke@dashjr.org> wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 27, 2013 5:30:21 PM Jeff Garzik wrote:
> >> * Very real possibility of an overall net reduction of full nodes on P2P
> >> network
> > Even a reduction of *nodes at all*, as I've never seen a listening bitcoinj or
> > MultiBit node. :/
> > Jim, will MultiBit be adding p2p listening support?
>
> Without validation listening isn't currently very useful. :( Maybe it
> could be somewhat more with some protocol additions.
>
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