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From: Antoine Riard <antoine.riard@gmail•com>
To: ZmnSCPxj <ZmnSCPxj@protonmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>,
	security@ariard•me,
	"lightning-dev\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] Full Disclosure: CVE-2023-40231 / CVE-2023-40232 / CVE-2023-40233 / CVE-2023-40234 "All your mempool are belong to us"
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 19:34:52 +0100	[thread overview]
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Hi Zeeman,

> At block height 100, `B` notices the `B->C` HTLC timelock is expired
without `C` having claimed it, so `B` forces the `B====C` channel onchain.
> However, onchain feerates have risen and the commitment transaction and
HTLC-timeout transaction do not confirm.

This is not that the HTLC-timeout does not confirm. It is replaced in
cycles by C's HTLC-preimage which is still valid after `B->C` HTLC timelock
has expired. And this HTLC-preimage is subsequently replaced itself.

See the test here:
https://github.com/ariard/bitcoin/commit/19d61fa8cf22a5050b51c4005603f43d72f1efcf

> At block height 144, `B` is still not able to claim the `A->B` HTLC, so
`A` drops the `A====B` channel onchain.
> As the fees are up-to-date, this confirms immediately and `A` is able to
recover the HTLC funds.
> However, the feerates of the `B====C` pre-signed transactions remain at
the old, uncompetitive feerates.

This is correct that A tries to recover the HTLC funds on the `A===B`
channel.

However, there is no need to consider the fee rates nor mempool congestion
as the exploit lays on the replacement mechanism itself (in simple
scenario).

> At this point, `C` broadcasts an HTLC-success transaction with high
feerates that CPFPs the commitment tx.
> However, it replaces the HTLC-timeout transaction, which is at the old,
low feerate.
> `C` is thus able to get the value of the HTLC, but `B` is now no longer
able to use the knowledge of the preimage, as its own incoming HTLC was
already confirmed as claimed by `A`.

This is correct that `C` broadcasts an HTLC-success transaction at block
height 144.

However `C` broadcasts this high feerate transaction at _every block_
between blocks 100 and 144 to replace B's HTLC-timeout transaction.

> Let me also explain to non-Lightning experts why HTLC-timeout is
presigned in this case and why `B` cannot feebump it.

Note `B` can feebump the HTLC-timeout for anchor output channels thanks to
sighash_single | anyonecanpay on C's signature.

Le mar. 17 oct. 2023 à 11:34, ZmnSCPxj <ZmnSCPxj@protonmail•com> a écrit :

> Good morning Antoine et al.,
>
> Let me try to rephrase the core of the attack.
>
> There exists these nodes on the LN (letters `A`, `B`, and `C` are nodes,
> `==` are channels):
>
>     A ===== B ===== C
>
> `A` routes `A->B->C`.
>
> The timelocks, for example, could be:
>
>    A->B timeelock = 144
>    B->C timelock = 100
>
> The above satisfies the LN BOLT requirements, as long as `B` has a
> `cltv_expiry_delta` of 44 or lower.
>
> After `B` forwards the HTLC `B->C`, C suddenly goes offline, and all the
> signed transactions --- commitment transaction and HTLC-timeout
> transactions --- are "stuck" at the feerate at the time.
>
> At block height 100, `B` notices the `B->C` HTLC timelock is expired
> without `C` having claimed it, so `B` forces the `B====C` channel onchain.
> However, onchain feerates have risen and the commitment transaction and
> HTLC-timeout transaction do not confirm.
>
> In the mean time, `A` is still online with `B` and updates the onchain
> fees of the `A====B` channel pre-signed transactions (commitment tx and
> HTLC-timeout tx) to the latest.
>
> At block height 144, `B` is still not able to claim the `A->B` HTLC, so
> `A` drops the `A====B` channel onchain.
> As the fees are up-to-date, this confirms immediately and `A` is able to
> recover the HTLC funds.
> However, the feerates of the `B====C` pre-signed transactions remain at
> the old, uncompetitive feerates.
>
> At this point, `C` broadcasts an HTLC-success transaction with high
> feerates that CPFPs the commitment tx.
> However, it replaces the HTLC-timeout transaction, which is at the old,
> low feerate.
> `C` is thus able to get the value of the HTLC, but `B` is now no longer
> able to use the knowledge of the preimage, as its own incoming HTLC was
> already confirmed as claimed by `A`.
>
> Is the above restatement accurate?
>
> ----
>
> Let me also explain to non-Lightning experts why HTLC-timeout is presigned
> in this case and why `B` cannot feebump it.
>
> In the Poon-Dryja mechanism, the HTLCs are "infected" by the Poon-Dryja
> penalty case, and are not plain HTLCs.
>
> A plain HTLC offerred by `B` to `C` would look like this:
>
>     (B && OP_CLTV) || (C && OP_HASH160)
>
> However, on the commitment transaction held by `B`, it would be infected
> by the penalty case in this way:
>
>     (B && C && OP_CLTV) || (C && OP_HASH160) || (C && revocation)
>
> There are two changes:
>
> * The addition of a revocation branch `C && revocation`.
> * The branch claimable by `B` in the "plain" HTLC (`B && OP_CLTV`) also
> includes `C`.
>
> These are necessary in case `B` tries to cheat and this HTLC is on an old,
> revoked transaction.
> If the revoked transaction is *really* old, the `OP_CLTV` would already
> impose a timelock far in the past.
> This means that a plain `B && OP_CLTV` branch can be claimed by `B` if it
> retained this very old revoked transaction.
>
> To prevent that, `C` is added to the `B && OP_CLTV` branch.
> We also introduce an HTLC-timeout transaction, which spends the `B && C &&
> OP_CLTV` branch, and outputs to:
>
>     (B && OP_CSV) || (C && revocation)
>
> Thus, even if `B` held onto a very old revoked commitment transaction and
> attempts to spend the timelock branch (because the `OP_CLTV` is for an old
> blockheight), it still has to contend with a new output with a *relative*
> timelock.
>
> Unfortunately, this means that the HTLC-timeout transaction is pre-signed,
> and has a specific feerate.
> In order to change the feerate, both `B` and `C` have to agree to re-sign
> the HTLC-timeout transaction at the higher feerate.
>
> However, the HTLC-success transaction in this case spends the plain `(C &&
> OP_HASH160)` branch, which only involves `C`.
> This allows `C` to feebump the HTLC-success transaction arbitrarily even
> if `B` does not cooperate.
>
> While anchor outputs can be added to the HTLC-timeout transaction as well,
> `C` has a greater advantage here due to being able to RBF the HTLC-timeout
> out of the way (1 transaction), while `B` has to get both HTLC-timeout and
> a CPFP-RBF of the anchor output of the HTLC-timeout transaction (2
> transactions).
> `C` thus requires a smaller fee to achieve a particular feerate due to
> having to push a smaller number of bytes compared to `B`.
>
> Regards,
> ZmnSCPxj
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-17 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-16 16:57 [bitcoin-dev] " Antoine Riard
2023-10-16 19:13 ` Peter Todd
2023-10-16 22:10   ` Matt Morehouse
2023-10-17  1:11   ` Antoine Riard
2023-10-20 10:47     ` Peter Todd
2023-10-20 11:18       ` Jochen Hoenicke
2023-10-16 22:51 ` Olaoluwa Osuntokun
2023-10-17  7:21 ` [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] " ziggie1984
2023-10-17 10:34   ` ZmnSCPxj
2023-10-17 18:34     ` Antoine Riard [this message]
2023-10-20 10:31     ` Peter Todd
2023-10-20 11:03       ` Peter Todd
2023-10-20 18:35         ` Matt Morehouse
2023-10-20 21:05           ` Matt Corallo
2023-10-21  0:15             ` Peter Todd
2023-10-21  1:03               ` Matt Corallo
2023-10-21  1:25                 ` Peter Todd
2023-10-21  1:55                   ` Matt Corallo
2023-10-21  2:43                     ` Peter Todd
2023-10-23 16:09                       ` Matt Corallo
2023-10-17 17:47   ` Antoine Riard
2023-10-17 18:47     ` Antoine Riard
2023-10-18  0:17 ` Matt Corallo
2023-10-18  2:57   ` Antoine Riard
2023-10-19  8:12     ` Bastien TEINTURIER
2023-10-19 16:23   ` Matt Morehouse
2023-10-19 17:22     ` Antoine Riard
2023-10-19 17:53       ` Matt Morehouse
2023-10-19 19:33         ` Antoine Riard
2023-10-21  0:18           ` Olaoluwa Osuntokun
2023-11-17 22:36             ` Antoine Riard
2023-10-19 18:02     ` Matt Corallo
2023-10-20  6:56 ` [bitcoin-dev] " Antoine Riard
2023-10-21 20:05   ` Antoine Riard
2023-10-27  0:43     ` Peter Todd
2023-11-02  4:46     ` Antoine Riard
2023-10-21  0:09 ` [bitcoin-dev] OP_Expire and Coinbase-Like Behavior: Making HTLCs Safer by Letting Transactions Expire Safely Peter Todd
2023-10-21  8:58   ` David A. Harding
2023-10-21 10:31     ` Peter Todd
2023-10-22  8:30   ` vjudeu
2023-10-23 11:10   ` [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] " ZmnSCPxj
2023-10-23 15:45     ` Peter Todd
2023-11-02  5:24   ` [bitcoin-dev] " Antoine Riard
2023-11-02  6:26     ` Peter Todd
2023-11-02 17:07       ` Matt Morehouse
2023-11-03  5:27         ` Antoine Riard
2023-11-03  5:25       ` Antoine Riard
2023-11-04  7:26         ` Peter Todd
2023-11-06 18:45           ` Antoine Riard
2023-11-07 11:11             ` [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] " ZmnSCPxj
2023-11-07 15:44               ` Antoine Riard
2023-11-08  0:51             ` [bitcoin-dev] " Peter Todd
2023-11-08  2:06               ` Peter Todd
2023-11-13  2:18                 ` Antoine Riard
2023-11-14 19:50                   ` Peter Todd
     [not found]                     ` <CALZpt+H38cU9L8kq0mSYCDirzL39fxhdoz4pAPiS8dGJP8akKg@mail.gmail.com>
2023-11-15 17:53                       ` [bitcoin-dev] Fwd: " Antoine Riard
2023-10-22  4:49 ` [bitcoin-dev] Full Disclosure: CVE-2023-40231 / CVE-2023-40232 / CVE-2023-40233 / CVE-2023-40234 "All your mempool are belong to us" Nadav Ivgi
2023-10-23  8:49   ` David A. Harding
2023-10-21 14:21 [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] " Nagaev Boris

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