From: "Martin Habovštiak" <martin.habovstiak@gmail•com>
To: Karl <gmkarl@gmail•com>
Cc: "Bitcoin Protocol Discussion"
<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>,
lightning-dev <lightning-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>,
"Héctor José Cárdenas Pacheco" <hcarpach@gmail•com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] Sending OP_RETURN via Bitcoin Lightning
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:31:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALkkCJas_pf7Un45CJyFg8j9cBk8PtKN4iYAL81TtLSRNnKqeg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALL-=e5mF9TqbbD=Cf-bawbw4dq2PGjC9W_nqAQeHsB829ZpNg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, 11:21 Karl <gmkarl@gmail•com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not a bitcoin developer.
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021, 5:05 AM Héctor José Cárdenas Pacheco via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I’ve been thinking about how OP_RETURN is being used to create and trade
>> NFTs on Bitcoin (think RarePepes, SoG and other new ones) and was wondering
>> if it’s possible to
>>
>
> Do you have a link to any of these protocols?
>
> make transactions with this opcode via Lightning.
>>
>> More specific questions could be:
>>
>> 1. Can opcodes like OP_RETURN be inside a channel’s opening or
>> closing transaction?
>> 2. If so, could that OP_RETURN change hands within that channel or
>> network of channels?
>>
>> OP_RETURNs do not have ownership according to the bitcoin network. It is
> not hard to define a protocol that associates an OP_RETURN with ownership,
> and ownership could then be transferred via lightning by sending associated
> currency via lightning. Robustness improvements seem possible.
>
>
>> 1. If possible, could the OP_RETURN be divisible? Could one person
>> send a piece of a OP_RETURN just like one can do right now on the primary
>> ledger or would it need to maintain the OP_RETURN code intact?
>>
>> OP_RETURNs themselves do not have ownership, but you can define a
> protocol that gives them divisible ownership, including via lightning.
>
> I’m assuming that, if possible, this would need a protocol layer parallel
>> to Bitcoin/Lightning that stores and reads all Bitcoin transactions and the
>> ones which involve the node's channels as well as the ones with the
>> OP_RETURN, just like CounterParty does right now with the primary ledger.
>>
>> Thank in advance.
>> ——
>>
>> *Héctor Cárdenas*@hcarpach
>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-06 11:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-06 9:54 [bitcoin-dev] " Héctor José Cárdenas Pacheco
2021-12-06 10:20 ` Karl
2021-12-06 11:31 ` Martin Habovštiak [this message]
2021-12-06 16:35 ` [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] " Christian Moss
2021-12-09 9:12 ` Peter Todd
2021-12-09 9:49 ` Christian Moss
2021-12-09 10:07 ` Peter Todd
2021-12-09 12:12 ` Alex Schoof
2021-12-09 12:56 ` Peter Todd
2021-12-06 12:38 ` [bitcoin-dev] " Christian Moss
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