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From: Adam Back <adam@cypherspace•org>
To: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Block Size Increase Requirements
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 19:44:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALqxMTHU+Bcgn8NjRvnO-6o3y457-VvxCAFms6H99=rPD8BuwQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEZrP1DT2VB9kNLCTXExVXwWkPFSar0GhbvhY9Wfz+H1Xx2gw@mail.gmail.com>

So lets rephrase that and say instead more correctly it is the job of
miners (collectively) to be well connected globally - and indeed there
are incentivised to be or they tend to receive blocks at higher
latency and so are at increased risk of orphans.  And miner groups
with good block latency in-group and high hashrate are definitionally
the well connected, so the cost of getting good connectivity to high
hashrate groups is naturally borne by people outside of those groups.
Or thats the incentive anyway.

Adam


On 1 June 2015 at 19:30, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net> wrote:
> I don't see this as an issue of sensitivity or not. Miners are businesses
> that sell a service to Bitcoin users - the service of ordering transactions
> chronologically. They aren't charities.
>
> If some miners can't provide the service Bitcoin users need any more, then
> OK, they should not/cannot mine. Lots of miners have come and gone since
> Bitcoin started as different technology generations came and went. That's
> just business.
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-01 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-01 13:06 Thy Shizzle
2015-06-01 18:19 ` Warren Togami Jr.
2015-06-01 18:30   ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-01 18:44     ` Adam Back [this message]
2015-06-01 19:23   ` Btc Drak
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-06-01 21:32 Thy Shizzle
2015-06-01 22:13 ` Pindar Wong
2015-06-01 11:12 Thy Shizzle
2015-05-07 22:02 [Bitcoin-development] " Matt Corallo
2015-05-29 23:42 ` Chun Wang
2015-05-30 13:57   ` Gavin Andresen
     [not found]     ` <CAFzgq-z5WCznGhbOexS0XESNGAVauw45ewEV-1eMij7yDT61=Q@mail.gmail.com>
2015-05-31  1:31       ` [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: " Chun Wang
2015-05-31  2:20         ` Pindar Wong
2015-05-31 12:40         ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-31 13:45           ` Alex Mizrahi
2015-05-31 14:54             ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-31 22:55               ` Alex Mizrahi
2015-05-31 23:23                 ` Ricardo Filipe
2015-05-31 23:40                   ` Pindar Wong
2015-05-31 23:58                     ` Ricardo Filipe
2015-06-01  0:03                       ` Pindar Wong
2015-06-01  7:57                   ` Alex Mizrahi
2015-06-01 10:13                     ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-01 10:42                       ` Pindar Wong
2015-06-01 11:26                         ` Peter Todd
2015-06-01 12:19                           ` Pindar Wong
2015-06-01 11:02                       ` Chun Wang
2015-06-01 11:09                         ` Pindar Wong
2015-06-01 11:20                         ` Chun Wang
2015-06-01 13:59                           ` Gavin Andresen
2015-06-01 14:08                             ` Chun Wang
2015-06-01 15:33                               ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-01 16:06                                 ` Ángel José Riesgo
2015-06-01 14:46                             ` Oliver Egginger
2015-06-01 14:48                               ` Chun Wang
2015-06-01 16:43                             ` Yifu Guo
2015-06-01 20:01                             ` Roy Badami
2015-06-01 20:15                               ` Roy Badami
2015-06-01 13:21                         ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-01 12:29                       ` Warren Togami Jr.
2015-06-01 13:15                 ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-31 12:52         ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-31 14:17           ` Dave Hudson
2015-05-31 14:34         ` Yifu Guo
2015-05-31 14:47           ` Gavin Andresen

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