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From: Christian Decker <decker.christian@gmail•com>
To: Joel Joonatan Kaartinen <joel.kaartinen@gmail•com>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Protocol extensions
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:26:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALxbBHVjujLfwNEcnm3XLZqeeARkr0N6j2zQgVFodTBeAr5WFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1324556083.30850.13.camel@mei>

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At first the idea of using negative announces seems attractive, but
remember that a malicious node might trigger verification for every
transaction, which may lead to a DoS.

Regards,
Chris

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Joel Joonatan Kaartinen <
joel.kaartinen@gmail•com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 11:52 +0000, Andy Parkins wrote:
> > Why should they have to?  Joining the network as a node is very low cost
> to
> > the other nodes.  You can't force any node not to be lazy, since their
> option
> > is to disconnect themselves.  As to maliciousness, that is defended
> against
> > because when a node negative announces a transaction, that transaction is
> > going to be checked (note that there is still no implicit trust) -- if a
> node
> > is incorrectly negative-announcing then it can justifiably be kicked.
>
> a node that is not doing any checking themselves can not reliably
> forward failed verifications without getting the blame for doing faulty
> work. Those nodes would then have the incentive not to relay the failed
> verifications. This ends up making it important to know which nodes will
> be checking transactions or not so you don't isolate yourself from other
> nodes that are also checking transactions.
>
> - Joel
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-22 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-17  7:41 Eric Lombrozo
2011-12-17 13:13 ` Michael Grønager
2011-12-17 13:37   ` Christian Decker
     [not found]     ` <CABsx9T0puk3CWH1cfNHMSVEoCPaLJJWNJ+H5ObCERZrzMbrTyA@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-17 19:06       ` Gavin Andresen
2011-12-17 21:49         ` theymos
2011-12-18  0:44           ` Jordan Mack
2011-12-18  1:07             ` Jeff Garzik
2011-12-18  1:27           ` Jordan Mack
2011-12-18 14:16             ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-18 17:09             ` theymos
2011-12-18 18:06               ` Alan Reiner
2011-12-18 18:47                 ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-18 19:37               ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-17 19:28     ` Gregory Maxwell
2011-12-17 20:34       ` Christian Decker
2011-12-18 21:19     ` Stefan Thomas
2011-12-19 21:43       ` Jordan Mack
2011-12-20  9:10         ` Wladimir
2011-12-20 10:44           ` Nicolas Fischer
2011-12-21  0:47         ` Kyle Henderson
2011-12-21  8:50       ` Michael Grønager
2011-12-21 11:42         ` Eric Lombrozo
2011-12-21 12:41           ` Michael Grønager
2011-12-21 16:10             ` Christian Decker
2011-12-22  9:18               ` Michael Grønager
2011-12-22 10:12               ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-22 10:27                 ` Michael Grønager
2011-12-22 11:52                   ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-22 12:14                     ` Joel Joonatan Kaartinen
2011-12-22 12:26                       ` Christian Decker [this message]
2011-12-22 12:42                       ` Michael Grønager
2011-12-22 14:46                       ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-25  2:55                         ` Zell Faze
2011-12-21 17:17         ` Jordan Mack
2011-12-22  9:19           ` Michael Grønager
2011-12-21  6:19 Eric Lombrozo

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