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From: Christian Decker <decker.christian@gmail•com>
To: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Difficulty adjustment / time issues
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:06:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALxbBHXnyioJzn=q5KD2fXeu3_JU+rUx5_pACppg7hP41xOwvg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201109141143.24165.luke@dashjr.org>

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Am I the only one to think putting pools at a disadvantage is actually
desirable?
Back when pools started to appear we all had huge reservations about putting
so much control into the hands of a few pool operators, but nowadays it
seems that having pool operators control a vast majority of the
computational power is desired.
I do like pools (I use them myself), but we should put the security of the
protocol in first place and then only think about individual players.
Always remember that the problems pool operators encounter are likely also
the ones of a potential attacker that tries to accumulate 50%+ of the
network power :-)

Regards,
Chris
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Luke-Jr <luke@dashjr•org> wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:45:36 AM Gavin Andresen wrote:
> > The block timestamp rules currently give HOURS of wiggle-room for
> > timestamps. We can't change those rules without risking a chain split.
>
> And those hours of wiggle-room are not enough to cause a problem.
> The problem only comes in (AFAIK) when the existing rules are *not*
> enforced.
>
> > Assuming a majority of pools/miners adopt the "discourage blocks with
> > stale timestamps" rule, that should squash any incentive for cartels
> > to try to start playing with difficulty-- you would have to have 50+%
> > power to start, or you risk producing mostly orphan blocks.
>
> As this is against pools/miners' interests, and doesn't seem to solve any
> real
> problems, I'm going to discourage its adoption if it ever gets done.
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-14 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-13 15:06 Gavin Andresen
2011-09-13 15:15 ` Vladimir Marchenko
2011-09-13 15:54 ` John Smith
2011-09-13 16:24 ` kjj
2011-09-14 14:45   ` Gavin Andresen
2011-09-14 15:43     ` Luke-Jr
2011-09-14 16:06       ` Christian Decker [this message]
2011-09-14 19:52     ` Aidan Thornton
2011-09-14 20:09       ` Gregory Maxwell
2011-09-14 20:28         ` Gavin Andresen
2011-09-14 21:36           ` Alex Waters
2011-09-14 21:51             ` Gregory Maxwell
2011-09-14 22:07               ` theymos
2011-09-14 23:01         ` Luke-Jr
2011-09-13 16:48 ` Luke-Jr
2011-09-14 21:45 ` theymos
2011-11-07 15:02 ` Pieter Wuille
2011-11-07 15:27   ` Luke-Jr
2011-11-07 15:43     ` Pieter Wuille

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