>> Let the market decide How about Futarchy? On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 01:13:18PM -0700, Andy Chase via bitcoin-dev wrote: > > Thanks for your thoughts. > > > > My proposal isn't perfect for sure. There's likely much better ways to do > > it. But to be clear what I'm trying to solve is basically this: > > > > Who makes high-level Bitcoin decisions? Miners, client devs, merchants, > or > > users? Let's set up a system where everyone has a say and clear > acceptance > > can be reached. > > It depends on a case-by-case basis. > > E.g. for soft-forks miners can do what they want with little ability for > other parties to have a say. For non-consensus-related standards - e.g. > address formats - it's quite possible for a BIP to be "accepted" even if > only a small group of users use the standard. For hard-forks almost > everyone is involved, though who can stop a fork isn't as well defined. > > IMO trying to "set up a system" in that kind of environment is silly, > and likely to be a bureaucratic waste of time. Let the market decide, as > has happened previously. If you're idea isn't getting acceptance, do a > better job of convincing the people who need to adopt it that it is a > good idea. > > No amount of words on paper will change the fact that we can't force > people to run software they don't want to run. The entire formal part of > the BIP process is simply a convenience so we have clear, short, numbers > that we can refer to when discussing ideas and standards. The rest of > the process - e.g. what Adam Back and others have been referring to when > attempting to dissuade Hearn and Andresen - is by definition always > going to be a fuzzy, situation-specific, and generally undefined > process. > > Or put another way, even if you did create your proposed process, the > first time those committees "approved" a BIP that relevant stakeholders > disagreed with, you'd find out pretty quickly that "clear acceptance" of > your 4% sample would fall apart the moment the other 96% realized what a > tiny minority was intending to do. Particularly if it was one of the > inhernet cases where the underlying math means a particular group - like > miners - has the ability to override what another group wants out of > Bitcoin. > > -- > 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org > 000000000000000010f9e95aff6454fedb9d0a4b92a4108e9449c507936f9f18 > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > >