It would be helpful to hear from the other miners, and perhaps arrange some testing and telemetry in China with 8 ... that's even a Chinese lucky number ;) p. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:32 AM, Thy Shizzle wrote: > Ah sorry, I just thought you were saying doesn't matter which side let > 'em burn. > > If I were the Chinese and people moved to 20mb MAX size blocks and said > stuff you, I'd just start firing out small coinbase only blocks now, if > they truly have >50% hashing power and they collaborate chances are they > can build a longer chain of just coinbase for themselves then the rest of > the network doing big blocks. They don't even have to propagate this chain > to you in a hurry right? And then they never have to receive a 20mb block > from you because they have a longer chain without 20mb blocks and always > ahead of your big blocks. As long as it is the longest chain it is > Authority so let you guys transact your coinbase from the blocks you create > etc. then whamo along come the chinese and supply a longer chain of just > coinbase only blocks which invalidates all your previous transactions and > gives them all the coinbase they stamped, while invalidating yours. > > But who cares about them right :p > ------------------------------ > From: Warren Togami Jr. > Sent: ‎2/‎06/‎2015 4:19 AM > Cc: Bitcoin Dev > Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Block Size Increase Requirements > > By reversing Mike's language to the reality of the situation I had hoped > people would realize how abjectly ignorant and insensitive his statement > was. I am sorry to those in the community if they misunderstood my post. I > thought it was obvious that it was sarcasm where I do not seriously believe > particular participants should be excluded. > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Thy Shizzle > wrote: > > Doesn't mean you should build something that says "fuck you" to the > companies that have invested in farms of ASICS. To say "Oh yea if they > can't mine it how we want stuff 'em" is naive. I get decentralisation, but > don't dis incentivise mining. If miners are telling you that you're going > to hurt them, esp. Miners that combined hold > 50% hashing power, why would > you say too bad so sad? Why not just start stripping bitcoin out of > adopters wallets? Same thing. > ------------------------------ > From: Warren Togami Jr. > Sent: ‎1/‎06/‎2015 10:30 PM > Cc: Bitcoin Dev > Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Block Size Increase Requirements > > Whilst it would be nice if miners in *outside* China can carry on > forever regardless of their internet situation, nobody has any inherent > "right" to mine if they can't do the job - if miners in *outside* China > can't get the trivial amounts of bandwidth required through their firewall *TO > THE MAJORITY OF THE HASHRATE* and end up being outcompeted then OK, too > bad, we'll have to carry on without them. > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Mike Hearn wrote: > > Whilst it would be nice if miners in China can carry on forever > regardless of their internet situation, nobody has any inherent "right" to > mine if they can't do the job - if miners in China can't get the trivial > amounts of bandwidth required through their firewall and end up being > outcompeted then OK, too bad, we'll have to carry on without them. > > But I'm not sure why it should be a big deal. They can always run a node > on a server in Taiwan and connect the hardware to it via a VPN or so. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > >