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From: paul snow <snow.paul@gmail•com>
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] one-show signatures (Re: The relationship between Proof-of-Publication and Anti-Replay Oracles)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:56:28 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMU7uiu_wmsZRf6tXdE--rXLb6DSwJHs2YnspQ-cCoN_dw62JA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141221185126.GC18711@savin.petertodd.org>

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On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 06:10:47PM +0000, Adam Back wrote:
> > Yes you could for example define a new rule that two signatures
> > (double-spend) authorises something - eg miners to take funds. (And
> > this would work with existing ECDSA addresses & unrestricted R-value
> > choices).
> >
> > I wasnt really making a point other than an aside that it maybe is
> > sort-of possible to do with math what you said was not possible where
> > you said "This [preventing signing more than one message] is
> > impossible to implement with math alone".
>
> Introducing a bunch of clever ECDSA math doesn't change the fact that
> the clever math isn't what is preventing double-spending, clever
> economics is. Just like Bitcoin itself.
>
> No sense getting people potentially confused by a bunch of complex
> equations that aren't relevant to the more fundemental and much more
> important principle that math alone can't prevent double-spending.


Math alone describes all of Bitcoin's structure; as math is a way to model
reality, it has no limits. Saying Math can't prevent double-spending is
near equivalent to saying it cannot be done.

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      reply	other threads:[~2014-12-22  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-21 18:10 Adam Back
2014-12-21 18:51 ` Peter Todd
2014-12-22  0:56   ` paul snow [this message]

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