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From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
To: Andrew <onelineproof@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Scaling Bitcoin with Subchains
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 20:15:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANEZrP1p3FU_0fvGKTDWF95Zns5S6KciayViZWiP6OmcqrQDUA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL8tG==LG=xC_DzOaghbGGKab4=UVpGLQV7781pU4wg+WnFdMg@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Andrew,

Your belief that Bitcoin has to be constrained by the belief that hardware
will never improve is extremist, but regardless, your concerns are easy to
assuage: there is no requirement that the block chain be stored on hard
disks. As you note yourself the block chain is used for building/auditing
the ledger. Random access to it is not required, if all you care about is
running a full node.

Luckily this makes it a great fit for tape backup. Technology that can
store 185 terabytes *per cartridge* has already been developed:

http://www.itworld.com/article/2693369/sony-develops-tape-tech-that-could-lead-to-185-tb-cartridges.html

As you could certainly share costs of a block chain archive with other
people, the cost would not be a major concern even today. And it's
virtually guaranteed that humanity will not hit a storage technology wall
in 2015.

If your computer is compromised then all bets are off. Validating the chain
on a compromised host is meaningless.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-25 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-20  2:55 Andrew
2015-05-25 18:15 ` Mike Hearn [this message]
2015-05-28  2:16   ` Andrew
2015-05-28  2:34     ` Bryan Bishop
2015-06-13 14:39 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-13 17:55   ` Andrew
2015-06-14  6:55   ` Martin Schwarz
2015-06-15 17:05     ` Andrew
2015-06-15 17:09       ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-15 17:15         ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-16 18:17           ` Peter Todd
2015-06-16 18:43             ` Andrew
2015-06-16 19:04               ` Andrew
2015-06-15 17:18         ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15 18:00           ` Andrew
2015-06-16 15:23             ` Andrew
2015-06-15 18:01           ` Jeff Garzik

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