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From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
To: Bryan Bishop <kanzure@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork & non-consensus hard-fork
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:20:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANEZrP2USM4pT1qFV28O2usPaBbOF6NiaXpEdACztCi1ZTwx7A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABaSBawXZDcyR96g4hBNAiFRDpTcUJX+bMXyqGeuY5wVm4k1KQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Bryan,

Specifically, when Adam mentioned your conversations with non-technical
> people, he did not mean "Mike has talked with people who have possibly not
> made pull requests to Bitcoin Core, so therefore Mike is a non-programmer".
>

Yes, my comment was prickly and grumpy. No surprises, I did not sleep well
last night.

I am upset about this constant insistence from Adam, Gregory and others
that the "technical community" or "technical majority" agree with them and
anyone who doesn't is "non technical" or "not a contributor" or not an
expert or not had things properly explained to them.

This is not true and needs to stop. Gavin and I have both been working on
Bitcoin in substantial ways for longer than Gregory and Adam have been in
the community at all. We are extremely technical, as are many of the people
who want us to release XT+larger blocks. We cannot make progress in any
kind of negotiation if one side constantly blows off the other and refuses
to take anything they say seriously, which has been a feature of this
"debate" from the start.

In contrast Gavin and I have written vast amounts of analysis on the
concerns raised by larger blocks. So many hours were spent, we could
probably fill a small book by now. We have carefully read and addressed
*dozens* of points raised by the 1mb camp. We have also done our best to
open this debate to the whole community.

So it would be nice if the people who are so keen on 1mb blocks show the
same respect to us.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-16 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-15  0:04 Adam Back
2015-06-15  9:56 ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15 18:03   ` Adam Back
2015-06-15 20:55     ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15 21:56       ` Bryan Bishop
2015-06-15 22:17         ` Faiz Khan
2015-06-15 22:56           ` Brian Hoffman
2015-06-15 23:05             ` [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork &non-consensus hard-fork Raystonn .
2015-06-16  0:08             ` [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork & non-consensus hard-fork Aaron Voisine
2015-06-16  0:41               ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-06-16  1:17               ` Alex Morcos
2015-06-16  4:00                 ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-17  3:54                   ` Peter Todd
2015-06-18 15:23               ` Jorge Timón
2015-06-16 11:29           ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-16 11:20         ` Mike Hearn [this message]
2015-06-16 12:33     ` Pindar Wong
2015-06-16 13:33       ` Peter Todd
2015-06-16 13:55         ` Pindar Wong
2015-06-17  3:59           ` Peter Todd
2015-06-25  6:43             ` [bitcoin-dev] " Pindar Wong
2015-06-26 19:30               ` Peter Todd
2015-06-15 22:54   ` odinn
2015-06-16  1:20     ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-16  5:18   ` Venzen
2015-06-16  6:09     ` Marcel Jamin
2015-06-16  9:21       ` Benjamin
2015-06-16 11:01     ` Tier Nolan
2015-06-17  3:52 ` Troy Benjegerdes

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