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From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
To: Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl•org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] [bitcoin-list] BitMail - p2p Email 0.1. beta
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:54:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANEZrP2uexbNM9xwNU1RSSgnRSGvUO69tVz0yL8Z5PXLG0HbSg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEZrP3J1+ATYSRcAcJgGtwcJE+XXKjFrdkP-bYQS7VbxKfV-g@mail.gmail.com>

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Sorry, I just noticed that this thread was CCd to the announce list not the
development list (why is it open access?)

It's offtopic anyway. Let's continue this discussion in private if anyone
wants to.


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net> wrote:

>
> The reason why TPM functionality was so much hated upon is because
>> it was pushed by a software/hardware monopoly, not just for DRM but
>> for locking down the system in general.
>>
>
> Regardless of what some people might have imagined or extrapolated at the
> time, the actual published specifications and technologies were nothing
> like that. There has never been a TC/TPM mode that would have generally
> locked systems down or even been useful for DRM (that'd have required a
> trusted hardware path which was never specced nor implemented).
>
> Locking a system down against tampering or for DRM does not require
> flexible open specifications with multiple competing implementations. It
> requires you to do an Xbox 360.
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-31 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-30  5:01 [Bitcoin-development] " Randolph D.
2013-07-30  6:50 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-07-30  8:40   ` Mike Hearn
2013-07-30 11:27     ` Wendell
2013-07-30 12:12       ` Mike Hearn
     [not found]         ` <CAD2Ti29=Lzcun+0Jz7zn2Dt9G2a06f-0V8KEBUMHJTGxhHQV0A@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-30 22:17           ` [Bitcoin-development] [bitcoin-list] " Mike Hearn
     [not found]             ` <CAD2Ti29zbac5YrW6+oMvb=8t7b1A31XckyC-mH7_qixLCRnFaQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <51F886F6.1090108@gmail.com>
2013-07-31  9:08                 ` Mike Hearn
     [not found]                   ` <20130731133104.GW29404@leitl.org>
     [not found]                     ` <CANEZrP3J1+ATYSRcAcJgGtwcJE+XXKjFrdkP-bYQS7VbxKfV-g@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-31 15:54                       ` Mike Hearn [this message]
2013-07-31 16:11         ` [Bitcoin-development] " Randolph D.

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