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From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Dedicated server for bitcoin.org, your thoughts?
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 21:28:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANEZrP3+AowZZS1=hAkx0KODiT-vbcRKyZaHOE2CWaJk3y5-Dw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgR0khyJxmz9c2Oc87hOFgiNuiPJuaeugGajdo_EcKEW9w@mail.gmail.com>

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Issues that would need to be resolved:

1) Who pays for it? Most obvious answer: Foundation. However there's
currently a fairly clear line between the foundation website and the
bitcoin.org website. I personally am fine with the bitcoin foundation
funding the website, it's a lot closer to the bitcoin community than
github. But some people might care. So next step would be to contact the
Foundation board and see if they're willing to fund it.

2) Anti-DoS? I assume github handles this at the moment, though I doubt
there's anything to be gained from DoSing the informational website

3) Where does the server go? Ideally, a hosting provider that accepts
Bitcoin of course!

4) Who admins it?

5) Who controls DNS for it?

Right now I think Sirius still owns DNS for bitcoin.org which is nonsense.
He needs to pass it on to someone who is actually still involved with the
project. Again, the most obvious neutral candidate would be the Foundation.

So I think it's a good idea but there's a fair amount of work here. The
primary upside I see is that it opens the potential for adding
interactive/server-side code in future if we decide that would be useful.



On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail•com> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Drak <drak@zikula•org> wrote:
> > BGP redirection is a reality and can be exploited without much
>
> You're managing to argue against SSL. Because it actually provides
> basically protection against an attacker who can actively intercept
> traffic to the server. Against that threat model SSL is clearly— based
> on your comments— providing a false sense of security.
>
> We _do_ have protection that protect against that— the pgp signature,
> but they are far from a solution since people do not check that.
>
> (I'm not suggesting we shouldn't have it, I'm suggesting you stop
> arguing SSL provides protection it doesn't before you manage to change
> my mind!)
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-08 20:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-08  1:17 Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08  3:38 ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08  9:03   ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 12:37     ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 19:16       ` Drak
2013-12-08 19:25         ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:28           ` Mike Hearn [this message]
2013-12-08 20:40             ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:51               ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:01                 ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 21:11                   ` Drak
2013-12-08 23:51                     ` theymos
2013-12-09  0:06                       ` Taylor Gerring
2013-12-09  6:29                       ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-09 10:54                       ` Roy Badami
2013-12-10  9:18                       ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08 21:09                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:16             ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 21:58               ` Roy Badami
2013-12-08 23:03                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-09  5:32                   ` Jeff Garzik
2013-12-08 22:44               ` Gavin Andresen
2013-12-08 23:48                 ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 23:18               ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 23:29               ` Patrick
2013-12-08 21:46             ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-12-08 20:40           ` Drak
2013-12-08 20:50             ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:07               ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:14                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 22:27                   ` Robert McKay
2013-12-12 20:51           ` Adam Back
2013-12-31 13:39             ` Drak
2013-12-31 13:48               ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 13:59                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-31 14:18                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 14:23                     ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-31 21:25                       ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-31 21:33                         ` Matt Corallo
2014-01-01 10:02                           ` Jeremy Spilman
2014-01-01 11:37                             ` Wladimir
2014-01-01 15:10                         ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-01 22:15                       ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-02 19:49                   ` Jorge Timón
2013-12-31 14:05                 ` Benjamin Cordes
2014-01-03  5:45                 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-01-03  9:59                   ` Drak
2014-01-03 11:22                     ` Tier Nolan
2014-01-03 13:09                       ` Adam Back
2014-01-03 17:38                     ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-01-03 18:21                       ` Jorge Timón
2014-01-04  1:43                         ` Troy Benjegerdes
2013-12-08 10:00   ` Drak
2013-12-08 12:39     ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 16:51     ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 16:08 ` Wladimir

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