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From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
To: Daniel Rice <drice@greenmangosystems•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>,
	Lawrence Nahum <lawrence@greenaddress•it>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] instant confirmation via payment protocol backwards compatible proto buffer extension
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:46:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANEZrP3P-EzS22QCSLuY8u42pZG7yTPNjoa4prQaSZzEjbxESg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFDyEXistfW2Y-93ipty_Z5NgtqT_1BRUNqBsYQNRFz_GjOQ6w@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Daniel Rice <drice@greenmangosystems•com>
wrote:

> True, that would work, but still how are you going to bootstrap the trust?
> TREZOR is well known, but in a future where there could be 100 different
> companies trying to release a similar product to TREZOR it seems like one
> company could corner the market by being the only one that is an accepted
> instant provider at most vendors
>

It's no different to the CA problem. People can only mentally handle a few
trust anchors, so for SSL it goes:

   1 User -> 2-3 browser makers -> 100's of CAs -> millions of websites

The trust starts out narrowly funnelled and grows outwards as things get
outsourced.

For this it'd go

   1 merchant -> 4-5 payment processing engines -> dozens of hardware
manufacturers -> hundreds of thousands of devices

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-16 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-14 12:00 Lawrence Nahum
2014-06-14 12:57 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-06-15  9:22   ` Lawrence Nahum
2014-06-15 12:46     ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-06-15 14:09       ` Lawrence Nahum
2014-06-18 12:09       ` Lawrence Nahum
2014-06-18 13:25         ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-18 15:59           ` Daniel Rice
2014-06-18 16:09             ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-19 17:36               ` Daniel Rice
2014-06-25 14:01         ` sebastien requiem
2014-06-16 12:19 ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-16 12:25   ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-16 15:09   ` Daniel Rice
2014-06-16 15:26     ` Lawrence Nahum
2014-06-16 16:00       ` Daniel Rice
2014-06-16 16:07         ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-16 15:41     ` Paul Goldstein
2014-06-16 15:48       ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-16 16:30         ` Lawrence Nahum
2014-06-16 16:45           ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-16 16:56             ` Lawrence Nahum
2014-06-16 17:01               ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-16 17:16                 ` Lawrence Nahum
2014-06-16 18:02                   ` Alex Kotenko
2014-06-16 18:09                     ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-16 20:29                       ` Daniel Rice
2014-06-16 20:32                         ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-16 20:37                           ` Daniel Rice
2014-06-16 20:46                             ` Mike Hearn [this message]
2014-06-16 20:53                               ` Daniel Rice
2014-06-16 20:55                                 ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-16 20:50                             ` [Bitcoin-development] Fidelity bonds for decentralized instant confirmation guarantees Peter Todd
2014-06-16 21:02                         ` [Bitcoin-development] instant confirmation via payment protocol backwards compatible proto buffer extension Daniel Rice
2014-06-16 20:32                       ` Alex Kotenko
2014-06-16 17:44                 ` Jorge Timón
2014-06-17 15:58                 ` Isidor Zeuner
2014-06-18  1:39         ` Tom Harding
2014-06-17 15:58     ` Isidor Zeuner
2014-06-18  9:15       ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-18 20:47       ` Natanael
2014-06-18  2:01     ` Tom Harding
2014-06-16 15:28   ` Lawrence Nahum
2014-06-16 15:43     ` Mike Hearn
2014-06-16 17:05       ` Lawrence Nahum
2014-06-16  8:53 Daniel Rice

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