From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
To: Paul Goldstein <paul@realfoot•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bill Request Message - (another) Proposed BIP 70 extension
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:23:45 +0200 [thread overview]
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I'm not convinced this inversion is really a problem, but as this is quite
a complex proposal (e.g. new barcode types) the best way to move it forward
at this stage is to implement it in some existing wallets.
FWIW NFC is a lot more common than you might think. For the drive-thru case
you could also consider using wifi hotspots with a special name or
Bluetooth LE tags. So I suspect before trying to write a specification it'd
be better to explore different technologies and see what works best in
practice.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Paul Goldstein <paul@realfoot•com> wrote:
> Here's an idea for a BIP 70 extension to let wallets be scanned by
> merchant bar code readers to start off a payment request flow instead of
> the other way around (wallet scanning the merchant QR). Useful for brick
> and mortar merchants and mobile wallet apps.
>
>
> Motivation:
> A mechanism is needed for mobile wallets to request a bill, so that a
> payment protocol flow can be initiated. Current mechanisms for initiating
> BIP70 payment flows generally require wallets to either scan a merchant
> barcode (not optimal, see below), or click on a specially formatted url
> link (only suitable while browsing and purchasing on a merchant website).
>
> Successful non-bitcoin mobile wallet apps to date (a popular coffee shop
> app comes to mind) allow for the wallet app to be scanned by the merchant
> and not the other way around (as is commonly done in bitcoin wallets
> today). For broad bitcoin adoption we need a mechanism for wallets to be
> scanned by merchant bar code readers at brick and mortar shops. This will
> also greatly ease checkouts at drive throughs and allows merchants to
> leverage existing hardware (barcode readers).
>
> Other technologies like NFC may obviate the need for this extension,
> however, those technologies remain somewhat uncommon and may not be
> suitable for smaller wearables hitting the market.
>
> message BillRequest {
> required uint64 time = 1;
> optional uint64 expires = 2;
> required string bill_request_uri = 3;
> }
>
>
> time - Unix timestamp (seconds since 1-Jan-1970 UTC) when the BillRequest
> was created.
> expires - Unix timestamp (UTC) after which the BillRequest should be
> considered invalid (wallets may only be monitoring for messages for a short
> time).
> bill_req_addr - Typically a URL where a BIP70 payment request can be sent
> that is being monitored by the wallet. However this could also support URIs
> like "sms:860-555-1212" or "mailto:asdf@gmail•com" allowing for a variety
> of connection options.
>
> Recommendations: it is recommended that wallet apps display a non-QR
> barcode like a PDF417 barcode to initiate the Bill Request flow. This will
> avoid confusion with existing QR code usage in wallet apps.
>
> --------
> Paul G.
>
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2014-06-24 19:44 Paul Goldstein
2014-06-25 11:23 ` Mike Hearn [this message]
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2014-06-25 14:38 ` Mike Hearn
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