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From: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
To: Michael Gronager <gronager@ceptacle•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Auto-generated miner backbone
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 13:03:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANEZrP3cfZ_SvyPmfinkGqERKrOJ8NR5ZvC4VfjRv=GsiabbdQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52778BCE.8030904@ceptacle.com>

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>
> The suggested change is actually very simple (minutes of coding) and
> elegant and addresses precisely the identified problem.
>

Disagree. Unless I'm misunderstanding what they propose, their suggested
change would mean anyone could broadcast a newly discovered block at any
point and have a 50% chance of being the winner. That is a fundamental
change to the dynamics of how Bitcoin works that would require careful
thought and study.

Also, their solution doesn't really address the problem they bring up, it
just changes the size of the threshold required.

Fundamentally, their attack is a sybil attack. It doesn't work if they
can't delay or block a pools competitors because mostly their block will
come in second place and they'll lose the race. Thus the solution should be
a solution to sybil attacks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-04 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-04 11:26 Mike Hearn
2013-11-04 11:53 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 12:00   ` Mike Hearn
2013-11-04 18:16     ` [Bitcoin-development] Committing to extra block data/a better merge-mine standard Peter Todd
2013-11-04 18:32       ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 19:11       ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-11-15 22:06         ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 19:38       ` Mike Hearn
2013-11-04 19:53         ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-11-04 20:10           ` Mike Hearn
2013-11-04 11:58 ` [Bitcoin-development] Auto-generated miner backbone Michael Gronager
2013-11-04 12:03   ` Mike Hearn [this message]
2013-11-04 12:20     ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 12:40     ` Michael Gronager
2013-11-04 15:58   ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-11-04 14:26 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 14:34   ` Pieter Wuille
2013-11-04 14:46     ` Peter Todd
     [not found]   ` <CABT1wWm1NzKSS9H=Qh3Z6pFmNHbOFKC12WaE=b3kE0mNsRgfmw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-04 15:04     ` Peter Todd
     [not found]       ` <CABT1wWmONUeOWRg-=FKr88bgBQf0un4bvjYW2h8d-10ys-VKtA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-04 15:46         ` Peter Todd
     [not found]           ` <CABT1wWmM466jWWdWAo5GmzP58xJFT70Vcr74ta+2QF2fWT+1SA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-04 16:07             ` Peter Todd
     [not found]               ` <CABT1wWm5BDZf7U40pOqZvTqdOKeTWUTekjUNckq5McMV=LDu_g@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-04 16:51                 ` Peter Todd
     [not found]         ` <CABT1wWmwb17b4ACHMmDKqd94tUSKsvwAPx344mZ0VS+47myeWg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-04 21:04           ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 21:45             ` Alan Reiner
2013-11-04 22:03               ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 15:27   ` Mike Hearn
2013-11-04 17:36     ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 15:51 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-11-05  4:14 Gustaw Wieczorek
2013-11-05  4:39 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-05  6:37   ` Gregory Maxwell

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