Good evening list, Apologies for posting! I've tried to keep discussion of ordinals and inscriptions off-list, because I consider it to be of little relevance to general Bitcoin development. Also, apologies for the HTML mail, but I don't have my email client configured correctly. And finally, also apologies if this breaks the thread, I was subscribed but not receiving mail, so I can't respond to the original message. AJ Towns writes: I think, however, that you can move inscriptions entirely off-chain. I wrote a little on this idea on twitter already [1], but after a bit more thought, I think pushing things even further off-chain would be plausible. Actually, my initial sketch for Ordinal NFTs worked in a similar fashion, with off-chain messages pointing to an ordinal, which could be tracked by following the chain of custody of that particular sat. I gave a workshop last year where I handed out paper wallets to participants with a private key that controlled some sats, which could both be assigned NFTs and used to sign messages as a form of provenance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5V33kV3iqo Ultimately, I decided against this design, and Peter provided an excellent explanation of some of the trade-offs of such a design in his mail, but to at least partially recap and explain my own thinking: NFT collectors have a strong revealed preference for on-chain content. The content of high-value NFTs is often stored partially or completely on chain, even if details of the NFT protocol involved actually prevents that content from being what you see when you view the NFT on a website or marketplace. User protection when off-chain content is involved is fraught. Users are not equipped, due to lack of technical knowledge, easily available, user-friendly tools, and education, to protect themselves when they buy a collectable whose content is stored off-chain. When a user buys an NFT with off-chain content, they now have the primary economic incentive to preserve that content, so that their NFT retains value and can be enjoyed or sold. Many existing NFT marketplaces that sell off-chain content do not explain this to users, or give users tools that the average, non-technical person can understand or use, which enables them to protect themselves. Even if they did give users these tools, there are tricky considerations involved. IPFS functions much like BitTorrent, so even if users were provided with an IPFS application that could persist their off-chain NFT content automatically, they might reveal their IP address, which would then be linked to ownership of their NFT, which would have privacy and safety considerations. Another issue is salience and scarcity, as has been mentioned. Off-chain content is unbounded, and thus less scarce. Usually, we design for efficiency, volume, and scale. For NFT designs, which are intended to be collectable, this is in some ways counterproductive. The above issues also make the specification and implementation of NFTs with off-chain content much more difficult. Ordinals is a project largely written by a single developer, me, with the assistance of two part time interns. It is very intentionally the simplest thing that could possibly work, much like Bitcoin itself. Sometimes I refer to it as "cave-man technology". If I was designing an off-chain NFT protocol, I would likely have had to raise money and recruit a large team, which I have not done, or be at risk of never launching anything at all. I would absolutely love for the ordinals protocol, that is, the numbering and transfer of individual satoshis, be used as the basis for alternative, off-chain NFT and colored coin schemes, with proper consideration given to the issues above. However, I would request that, to avoid confusion, these alternative schemes never be called inscriptions. I'm a dev, not a cop, but fine distinctions are hard to properly explain and understand. Inscriptions, that is, the NFT protocol which embeds content in transaction witnesses, has a particular set of trade-offs and guarantees. I want users to know that if they buy or value something they or others call an "inscription", they can rely on those trade-offs and guarantees. Another NFT protocol named "inscriptions" would make this very difficult. Additionally, I think the term "inscription" which has a connotation of permanence, and of an indelible association with a particular satoshi, is inappropriate for an off-chain NFT protocol. Sorry to belabor this point! Inscriptions have already proven very popular for a nascent protocol, beyond my expectations, and the terminology and naming is still new, so it's a critical phase in terms of understanding and education. If others are interested in developing ordinals further, a great first step would be to provide review and feedback on the BIP PR: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1408 I have never written a BIP, so style and content feedback is especially welcome. Inscriptions themselves have no BIP, although at least one alternative implementation of the inscription parser has been written: https://ordinals.com/content/6f46a2a830a90e406245b188631cd15ffea31b8be146255ec39d4d46bbe15663i0 I hope to write a BIP for inscriptions as the implementation and protocol mature. In general, although I do love the ordinals protocol, it has many downsides, which I hope people will consider when considering it for alternative colored coin schemes. These include the fact that divisibility is limited, both by the use of real sats and the dust limit, that cardinal satoshis must be used to pay fees, the general insanity of ordinal-aware transaction construction[0], and difficult in lifting ordinals onto an L2. I consider ordinals ideal for art projects like inscriptions and ordinal-theory-powered satoshi numismatics, where aesthetic and technical considerations are nearly equally important. Please feel free to contact me privately by email, or on the ordinals project GitHub[1] if you'd like to respond! My intention with this message is not to spark debate, since I consider it mostly off-topic for this list. Best regards, Casey Rodarmor [0] https://github.com/casey/ord/blob/master/src/subcommand/wallet/transaction_builder.rs [1] https://github.com/casey/ord