Is there a relatively easy way to switch between Testnet versions in the client? On the forums I am in discussion with one member who mentioned the idea of a Main net, a testnet and a "beta-net" where the coins on the beta-net would be allowed to have value. It seems like simple and logical way to do this would be something like a "testnet=1, testnetversion=3" in the bitcoin.conf file. Is this possible? On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Dennison Bertram < dennison@dennisonbertram.com> wrote: > Why use ripple and not just use the testnet? > > The advantageous of allowing testnet to be used as an alt-coin are > That Non standard transactions can be tested in a pseudo live environment > where because the coins have some nominal value people are incentivized to > try and steal and come up with clever ways of gamin the system. This sort > of knowledge would be invaluable if non standard transactions are ever > going to become a reality on main net. > > It also allows developers a chance to develop in advance new technologies > and services that currently won't run on bitcoin main net but might be > enabled in the future at which point they can switch over to main net. > Additionally without any development happening with non standard > transactions as currently there is no economic incentive , there might be a > strong argument to never bother enabling non standard transactions as the > risk of doing so might not justify in many people's minds the benefits as > if no one develops anything in advance most users might not find the > theoretical possibilities worth the risk, thus permanently hobbling the > full potential of satoshis idea. Rather if testnet were allowed to act as > an alt coin something cool might be developed that the main net users might > desire enough to overcome the inertia of the status quo. > > Additionally it should be considered that the time in the future when non > standard transactions might be enabled might be so far in the future when > bitcoin has hit mass adoption and changing anything might require far more > political negotiations between users and devs then currently. Meaning that > perhaps much more proof of functionality and value as well as testing might > e required. > > Dennison > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 15, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Melvin Carvalho > wrote: > > > > > On 19 May 2013 15:23, Adam Back wrote: > >> Is there a way to experiment with new features - eg committed coins - that >> doesnt involve an altcoin in the conventional sense, and also doesnt >> impose >> a big testing burden on bitcoin main which is a security and testing risk? >> >> eg lets say some form of merged mine where an alt-coin lets call it >> bitcoin-staging? where the coins are the same coins as on bitcoin, the >> mining power goes to bitcoin main, so some aspect of merged mining, but no >> native mining. and ability to use bitcoins by locking them on bitcoin to >> move them to bitcoin-staging and vice versa (ie exchange them 1:1 >> cryptographically, no exchange). >> >> Did anyone figure anything like that out? Seems vaguely doable and >> maybe productive. The only people with coins at risk of defects in a new >> feature, or insufficiently well tested novel feature are people with coins >> on bitcoin-staging. >> >> Yes I know about bitcoin-test this is not it. I mean a real live system, >> with live value, but that is intentionally wanting to avoid forking >> bitcoins >> parameters, nor value, nor mindshare dillution. In this way something >> potentially interesting could move forward faster, and be les risky to the >> main bitcoin network. eg particularly defenses against >> >> It might also be a more real world test test (after bitcoin-test) because >> some parameters are different on test, and some issues may not manifest >> without more real activity. >> >> Then also bitcoin could cherry pick interesting patches and merge them >> after >> extensive real-world validation with real-money at stake (by early >> adopters). >> > > Interesting idea. I wonder if ripple could be used to set up a transfer > system between the 'main' and 'staging' systems ... > > >> >> Adam >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete >> security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and >> efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls >> from a single console and one unified framework. 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