OK.

Thank you guys for clarification.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Karl-Johan Alm via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Thanks for clarifying!
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 6:48 PM, ZmnSCPxj <ZmnSCPxj@protonmail.com> wrote:
> > Good morning Karl-Johan Alm,
> >
> > To clarify:
> >
> > Nothing prevents a miner from completely ignoring nSequence when putting
> transactions in blocks.
> >
> > Unconfirmed transactions are, by definition, not recorded in blocks.  So
> if there is a transaction 0xFFFFFFF nSequence and fee 1000 satoshi, and
> another conflicting transaction 0xFFFFFFF nSequence and fee 100000000
> satoshi, miners can include the latter one even if the first one came to
> their knowledge first, regardless nSequence.
> >
> > Thus, in the end "full replace-by-fee", where nSequence is IGNORED for
> purposes of replace-by-fee, is expected to become the norm, and we should
> really be designing our wallets and so on so that we only trust
> transactions that have confirmations.
> >
> > The "nSequence=0xFFFFFFFF means opt-OUT of RBF" convention is only
> followed by fullnodes running standard bitcoind.  Nothing prevents miners
> from running patched bitcoind that ignores this rule, and connecting with
> similar peers who also ignore this rule.
> >
> > Regards,
> > ZmnSCPxj
> >
> >
> > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> >
> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> >
> > On April 11, 2018 5:37 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 05:10:43PM +0900, Karl-Johan Alm wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Peter Todd pete@petertodd.org wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Or via full replace-by-fee, which appears to be used by a
> significant minority
> >> > >
> >> > > of miners:
> >> >
> >> > I was of the impression that final transactions (sequence=0xffffffff)
> >> >
> >> > cannot be RBF'd.
> >>
> >> My full-replace-by-fee tree ignores that. It also does preferential
> peering to
> >>
> >> ensure it's well connected with likewise peers, and thus the whole
> network.
> >>
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