Gregory wrote: > I see the inner loop of construction and lookup are free of > non-constant divmod. This will result in implementations being > needlessly slow Ahh, sipa brought this up other day, but I thought he was referring to the coding loop (which uses a power of 2 divisor/modulus), not the siphash-then-reduce loop. > I believe this can be fixed by using this approach > http://lemire.me/blog/2016/06/27/a-fast-alternative-to-the-modulo-reduction/ > which has the same non-uniformity as mod but needs only a multiply and > shift. Very cool, I wasn't aware of the existence of such a mapping. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from my interpretation we can't use that method as described as we need to output 64-bit integers rather than 32-bit integers. A range of 32-bits would be constrain the number of items we could encode to be ~4096 to ensure that we don't overflow with fp values such as 20 (which we currently use in our code). If filter commitment are to be considered for a soft-fork in the future, then we should definitely optimize the construction of the filters as much as possible! I'll look into that paper you referenced to get a feel for just how complex the optimization would be. > Shouldn't all cases in your spec where you have N=transactions be > n=indexed-outputs? Otherwise, I think your golomb parameter and false > positive rate are wrong. Yep! Nice catch. Our code is correct, but mistake in the spec was an oversight on my part. I've pushed a commit[1] to the bip repo referenced in the OP to fix this error. I've also pushed another commit to explicitly take advantage of the fact that P is a power-of-two within the coding loop [2]. -- Laolu [1]: https://github.com/Roasbeef/bips/commit/bc5c6d6797f3df1c4a44213963ba12e72122163d [2]: https://github.com/Roasbeef/bips/commit/578a4e3aa8ec04524c83bfc5d14be1b2660e7f7a On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 2:41 PM Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Olaoluwa Osuntokun via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > > Hi y'all, > > > > Alex Akselrod and I would like to propose a new light client BIP for > > consideration: > > * > https://github.com/Roasbeef/bips/blob/master/gcs_light_client.mediawiki > > I see the inner loop of construction and lookup are free of > non-constant divmod. This will result in implementations being > needlessly slow (especially on arm, but even on modern x86_64 a > division is a 90 cycle-ish affair.) > > I believe this can be fixed by using this approach > > http://lemire.me/blog/2016/06/27/a-fast-alternative-to-the-modulo-reduction/ > which has the same non-uniformity as mod but needs only a multiply > and shift. > > Otherwise fast implementations will have to implement the code to > compute bit twiddling hack exact division code, which is kind of > complicated. (e.g. via the technique in "{N}-bit Unsigned Division via > {N}-bit Multiply-Add" by Arch D. Robison). > > Shouldn't all cases in your spec where you have N=transactions be > n=indexed-outputs? Otherwise, I think your golomb parameter and false > positive rate are wrong. >