Replying to this specific email only because it is the most recent in my mail client. Does this conversation have to happen on-list? It seems to have wandered incredibly far off-topic. On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Also, in the US, despite overwhelming resistance on a broad scale, >> legislation continues to be presented which would violate the 2nd amendment >> right to keep and bear arms. > > > And yet the proposed legislation goes nowhere, and the USA continues to > stand alone in having the first world's weakest gun control laws. > > You are just supporting my point with this example. Obama would like to > restrict guns, but can't, because they are too popular (in the USA). > > The comparison to BitTorrent is likewise weak: governments hardly care > about piracy. They care enough to pass laws occasionally, but not enough to > put serious effort into enforcement. Wake me up when the USA establishes a > Copyright Enforcement Administration with the same budget and powers as the > DEA. > > Internet based black markets exist only because governments tolerate them > (for now). A ban on Tor, Bitcoin or both would send them back to the > pre-2011 state where they were virtually non-existent. Governments tolerate > this sort of abuse only because they believe, I think correctly, that > Bitcoin can have great benefits for their ordinary voters and for now are > willing to let the tech industry experiment. > > But for that state of affairs to continue, the benefits must actually > appear. That requires growth. > > I think there's a difference between natural growth and the kind of growth >> that's being proposed by bank-backed start-ups and pro-censorship entities. >> > > What difference? Are you saying the people who come to Bitcoin because of > a startup are somehow less "natural" than other users? > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > >