It is in their individual interests when the larger block that is allowed for them grants them more fees. On Aug 28, 2015 4:35 PM, "Chris Pacia via bitcoin-dev" < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > When discussing this with Matt Whitlock earlier we basically concluded the > block size will never increase under this proposal do to a collective > action problem. If a miner votes for an increase and nobody else does, the > blocksize will not increase yet he will still have to pay the difficulty > penalty. > > It may be in everyone's collective interest to raise the block size but > not their individual interest. > On Aug 28, 2015 6:24 PM, "Gavin via bitcoin-dev" < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > >> With this proposal, how much would it cost a miner to include an 'extra' >> 500-byte transaction if the average block size is 900K and it costs the >> miner 20BTC in electricity/capital/etc to mine a block? >> >> If my understanding of the proposal is correct, it is: >> >> 500/900000 * 20 = 0.11111 BTC >> >> ... Or $2.50 at today's exchange rate. >> >> That seems excessive. >> >> -- >> Gavin Andresen >> >> >> > On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Matt Whitlock via bitcoin-dev < >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >> > >> > This is the best proposal I've seen yet. Allow me to summarize: >> > >> > • It addresses the problem, in Jeff Garzik's BIP 100, of miners selling >> their block-size votes. >> > • It addresses the problem, in Gavin Andresen's BIP 101, of blindly >> trying to predict future market needs versus future technological >> capacities. >> > • It avoids a large step discontinuity in the block-size limit by >> starting with a 1-MB limit. >> > • It throttles changes to ±10% every 2016 blocks. >> > • It imposes a tangible cost (higher difficulty) on miners who vote to >> raise the block-size limit. >> > • It avoids incentivizing miners to vote to lower the block-size limit. >> > >> > However, this proposal currently fails to answer a very important >> question: >> > >> > • What is the mechanism for activation of the new consensus rule? It is >> when a certain percentage of the blocks mined in a 2016-block retargeting >> period contain valid block-size votes? >> > >> > >> > https://github.com/btcdrak/bips/blob/bip-cbbsra/bip-cbbrsa.mediawiki >> > >> > >> >> On Friday, 28 August 2015, at 9:28 pm, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev wrote: >> >> Pull request: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/187 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > bitcoin-dev mailing list >> > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> bitcoin-dev mailing list >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > >