Then I would suggest working on payment channel networks. No decrease of the interblock time will ever compete with the approximately instant time it takes to validate a microchannel payment. On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Sergio Demian Lerner < sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com> wrote: > In some rare occasions in everyday life, what matters is seconds. Like > when paying for parking in the car while some other cars are behind you in > the line. You don't want them to get upset. > > I takes me tens of minutes to shop. But once you choose your merchandise > and your payment starts processing, if the payment system allows several > payments to be pending simultaneously and you're not blocking the next > person to pay, then I don't care waiting some minutes for confirmation. But > saving 10 minutes of confirmation is a lot. > > I ague that our time is mostly measured in minutes (but I don't have any > sociological, cultural, genetic or anthropological evidence). It takes > minutes to read an e-mail, minutes to correct a bug, minutes to have lunch, > minutes to drive to the office, minutes to talk to your kids. A payment > taking 1 minute is much better than a payment taking 10. If I could choose > a single thing to change to Bitcoin, I would lower the payment time, even > within the minute scale. > > Sergio > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Natanael wrote: > >> Den 7 aug 2015 23:37 skrev "Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev" < >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>: >> > >> > Mark, >> > It took you 3 minutes to respond to my e-mail. And I responded to you 4 >> minutes later. If you had responded to me in 10 minutes, I would be of out >> the office and we wouldn't have this dialogue. So 5 minutes is a lot of >> time. >> > >> > Obviously this is not a technical response to the technical issues you >> argue. But "minutes" is a time scale we humans use to measure time very >> often. >> >> But what's more likely to matter is seconds. What you need then is some >> variant of multisignature notaries (Greenaddress.it, lightning network), >> where the combination of economic incentives and legal liability gives you >> the assurance of doublespend protection from the time of publication of the >> transaction to the first block confirmation. >> > >