Re: [bitcoin-dev] IsStandard

From: James Prestwich <james@prestwi•ch>
To: Aymeric Vitte <vitteaymeric@gmail•com>,
	 Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] IsStandard
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 16:33:09 -0700	[thread overview]
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Hi Aymeric,

As Luke and ZmnSCPxj have pointed out, documenting standardness is
sisyphean, as it varies from version to version. I recently put together a
reference for default TX_NONSTANDARD policies in v0.18, which can be found
here: https://prestwi.ch/the-bitcoin-nonstandard/

It applies only to v0.18, and may already be outdated.

Best,
James

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 4:29 PM Aymeric Vitte via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the answer, indeed for the redeem script and someone
> attempting a 0/1 of 3, good example
>
> So to summarize everything is standard as long as it matches P2PKH,
> P2SH, P2WPKH or P2WSH , the redeem scripts for the sha bounties are in
> op_return
>
> Still the case of bch is unclear (it's related since based on bitcoin
> code unless they changed the policy), was the story that nodes would not
> propagate the fix or that people did not want to take the risk to
> propagate it? And why a non segwit old bitcoin node would not accept it
> either?
>
> Le 02/05/2019 à 02:10, ZmnSCPxj a écrit :
> > Good morning Aymeric,
> >
> >
> > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> >
> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 5:43 PM, Aymeric Vitte <
> vitteaymeric@gmail•com> wrote:
> >
> >> I must badly explain my point (or just wondering things that do not
> >> exist finally), the question is indeed whether nodes will relay non
> >> usual transactions or not and how to know what they will accept or not:
> >>
> >> -   my modified multisig 2 of 3: I did put OP_2 out of the usual redeem
> >>     script, the redeem script still matches scriptpubkey and scriptsig
> will
> >>     execute succesfully, that's a normal legacy P2SH or segwit P2WSH
> >>
> >> -   bch segwit recovery: it's a p2sh transaction without any signature
> >>     verification, as far as I remember there was a story that it could
> not
> >>     propagate in the network (even taking the risk to be stolen) and
> that
> >>     people had to contact a (honest) miner
> >>
> >> -   sha bounties: same as above, p2sh transactions without signatures
> >>
> >>     etc
> >>
> >>     Will all of those transactions propagate normally? And then the
> rule is
> >>     just that it matches the P2PKH, P2WPKH, P2SH, or P2WSH templates
> >>     whatever scripts you put inside?
> > P2PKH and P2WPKH cannot have custom script.
> > However, yes, any custom script can be wrapped in P2SH and P2WSH and it
> will be propagated.
> > The P2SH/P2WSH hides the details of your custom script so cannot be
> filtered based on your custom script.
> > Do realize that once a claim on your modified x-of-3 is propagated your
> `redeemScript` is known and someone can attempt to RBF (or coordinate with
> a miner) with a modified `witness` stack or `scriptSig` to claim your UTXO.
> > (I do not know if `OP_CHECKMULTISIG` supports 0-of-3 but at least one of
> your signatories could make it a 1-of-3 and bribe a miner to get it claimed)
> >
> > I cannot answer for BCH; arguably that is off-topic here.
> >
> > The old SHA bounty transactions were propagated in the days before
> `isStandard` I think.
> > Either that or they were put in by miners.
> > An SHA bounty can still be propagated today if they are wrapped in a
> P2SH or P2WSH, but you have to publish the `redeemScript` yourself in some
> other method.
> > Or bribe a miner if the transaction is not time-sensitive (for an SHA
> bounty, unlikely to be time-sensitive).
> >
> > Regards,
> > ZmnSCPxj
>
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