Re: [bitcoin-dev] Draft BIP : fixed-schedule block size increase

From: "Clément Elbaz" <clem.ds@gmail•com>
To: Tier Nolan <tier.nolan@gmail•com>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Draft BIP : fixed-schedule block size increase
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:18:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP63atYR7RdoAHWycNnx2DN9vuX9bKhDC9bLCMjTs7oFs4_u4A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE-z3OX47uh6TDcfm7VO-venh5BTU_crVxvSZMVvMn5wBPg3uw@mail.gmail.com>

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The "only bigblock" patch you want is actually available here :
https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/tree/only-bigblocks

Le lun. 17 août 2015 à 15:16, Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> a écrit :

> One of the comments made by the mining pools is that they won't run XT
> because it is "experimental".
>
> Has there been any consideration to making available a version of XT with
> only the blocksize changes?
>
> The least "experimental" version would be one that makes the absolute
> minimum changes to core.
>
> The MAX_BLOCK_SIZE parameter could be overwritten whenever the longest tip
> changes.  This saves creating a new function.
>
> Without the consensus measuring code, the patch would be even easier.
> Satoshi's proposal was just a block height comparison (a year in advance).
>
> The state storing code is also another complication.  If the standard
> "counting" upgrade system was used, then no state would need to be stored
> in the database.
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:49 PM, odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla@riseup•net>
> wrote:
>
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>> (My replies below)
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>> On 06/26/2015 06:47 AM, Tier Nolan wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Adam Back <adam@cypherspace•org
>> > <mailto:adam@cypherspace•org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The hard-cap serves the purpose of a safety limit in case our
>> > understanding about the economics, incentives or game-theory is
>> > wrong worst case.
>> >
>> >
>> > True.
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>> >
>> > BIP 100 and 101 could be combined.  Would that increase consensus?
>>
>> Possibly ~ In my past message(s), I've suggested that Jeff's BIP 100
>> is a better alternative to Gavin's proposal(s), but that I didn't
>> think that this should be taken to mean that I am saying one thing is
>> "superior" to Gavin's work, rather, I emphasized that Gavin work with
>> Jeff and Adam.
>>
>> At least, at this stage the things are in a BIP process.
>>
>> If the BIP 100 and BIP 101 would be combined, what would that look
>> like on paper?
>>
>> >
>> > - Miner vote threshold reached - Wait notice period or until
>> > earliest start time - Block size default target set to 1 MB - Soft
>> > limit set to 1MB - Hard limit set to 8MB + double every 2 years -
>> > Miner vote to decide soft limit (lowest size ignoring bottom 20%
>> > but 1MB minimum)
>> >
>> > Block size updates could be aligned with the difficulty setting
>> > and based on the last 2016 blocks.
>> >
>> > Miners could leave the 1MB limit in place initially.  The vote is
>> > to get the option to increase the block size.
>> >
>> > Legacy clients would remain in the network until >80% of miners
>> > vote to raise the limit and a miner produces a >1MB block.
>> >
>> > If the growth rate over-estimates hardware improvements, the devs
>> > could add a limit into the core client.  If they give notice and
>> > enough users update, then miners would have to accept it.
>> >
>> > The block size becomes min(miner's vote, core devs).  Even if 4
>> > years notice is given, blocks would only be 4X optimal.
>> >
>> >
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