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From: "James O'Beirne" <james.obeirne@gmail•com>
To: Billy Tetrud <billy.tetrud@gmail•com>,
	 Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Thoughts on fee bumping
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 14:18:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPfvXfLFaBQnBixpK5+rMXw2BTxw0YGnR=6iTYUpZHt6X=5yNw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGpPWDa0hs2FWiE3VZ9Y4hKkEt6Up0oTgfKu3+N04h1Fn33DsA@mail.gmail.com>

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> What do you mean by monotone in the context of sponsor transactions?

I take this to mean that the validity of a sponsor txn is
"monotonically" true at any point after the inclusion of the sponsored
txn in a block.

> And when you say tx-index, do you mean an index for looking up a
> transaction by its ID? Is that not already something nodes do?

Indeed, not all nodes have this ability. Each bitcoind node has a map
of unspent coins which can be referenced by outpoint i.e.(txid, index),
but the same isn't true for all historical transactions. I
(embarrassingly) forgot this in the prior post.

The map of (txid -> transaction) for all time is a separate index that
must be enabled via the `-txindex=1` flag; it isn't enabled by default
because it isn't required for consensus and its growth is unbounded.

> > The current consensus threshold for transactions to become invalid
> > is a 100 block reorg
>
> What do you mean by this? The only 100 block period I'm aware of is
> the coinbase cooldown period.

If there were a reorg deeper than 100 blocks, it would permanently
invalidate any transactions spending the recently-matured coinbase
subsidy in any block between $new_reorg_tip and ($former_tip_height -
100). These invalidated spends would not be able to be reorganized
into a new replacement chain.

How this differs in practice or principle from a "regular" double-spend
via reorg I'll leave for another message. I'm not sure that I understand
that myself. Personally I think if we hit a >100 block reorg, we've got
bigger issues than coinbase invalidation.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-16 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-10 19:40 James O'Beirne
2022-02-10 23:09 ` Greg Sanders
2022-02-10 23:44 ` darosior
2022-02-10 23:51   ` James O'Beirne
2022-02-11  6:51     ` darosior
2022-02-12 19:44       ` Billy Tetrud
2022-02-11  0:12 ` Matt Corallo
2022-02-14 19:51   ` James O'Beirne
2022-02-17 14:32   ` Anthony Towns
2022-02-17 18:18     ` James O'Beirne
2022-02-18  9:01       ` darosior
2022-02-18  0:35     ` Antoine Riard
2022-02-11  5:26 ` Antoine Riard
2022-02-14 20:28   ` James O'Beirne
2022-02-15  0:43     ` Antoine Riard
2022-02-15 17:09       ` Billy Tetrud
2022-02-15 20:24         ` Russell O'Connor
2022-02-15 20:53           ` James O'Beirne
2022-02-15 21:37             ` Jeremy Rubin
2022-02-18 21:09               ` [bitcoin-dev] Sponsor transaction engineering, was " David A. Harding
2022-02-15 21:38           ` [bitcoin-dev] " Jeremy Rubin
2022-02-16  2:54             ` Billy Tetrud
2022-02-16 19:18               ` James O'Beirne [this message]
2022-02-16 20:36                 ` Billy Tetrud
2022-02-18  0:54 Prayank
2022-02-18  2:08 Prayank

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