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From: Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail•com>
To: Chris Stewart <chris@suredbits•com>,
	 Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Updating the Scaling Roadmap
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:01:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPg+sBghOOcyRqtuAXhWQ=yA1nuqw8Xs+yrK9CTpRo4uc3773Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGL6+mHQZ3UP10msk65OO+Uk0hn7j+dkmJap_M7FgWfSZaYYJQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Jul 11, 2017 09:18, "Chris Stewart via bitcoin-dev" <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

Concept ACK.

If drivechains are successful they should be viewed as the way we scale


I strongly disagree with that statement.

Drivechains, and several earlier sidechains ideas, are not a scalability
improvement, but merely enabling users to opt-in for another security model.

While obviously any future with wider adoption will need different
technologies that have different trade-offs, and anyone is free to choose
their security model, I don't think this particular one is interesting. In
terms of validation cost to auditors, it is as bad as just a capacity
increase on chain, while simultaneously adding the extra risk of miners
being able to vote to steal your money.

Cheers,

-- 
Pieter

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-11 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-10 16:50 Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 16:03 ` Chris Stewart
2017-07-11 16:49   ` Adam Back
2017-07-11 20:01   ` Pieter Wuille [this message]
2017-07-11 20:36     ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 21:40       ` Pieter Wuille
2017-07-11 22:49         ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 21:16     ` CryptAxe
2017-07-11 20:18   ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 21:31     ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-11 22:27       ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 21:11 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-11 21:40   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-11 22:17   ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 22:41     ` Tao Effect
2017-07-11 22:57       ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 23:12         ` Tao Effect
2017-07-12  0:21           ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-12  7:27             ` Jacob Eliosoff
2017-07-12 19:19           ` Chris Stewart
2017-07-12 19:24             ` Tao Effect
2017-07-12 19:34               ` Chris Stewart
2017-07-12 19:42                 ` Tao Effect
2017-07-12 19:54                   ` CryptAxe
2017-07-12 21:55                     ` Tao Effect
2017-07-12 22:07                       ` CryptAxe
2017-07-11 23:36     ` Bryan Bishop
2017-07-12  0:07     ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-12  1:40       ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-12  2:48         ` Bryan Bishop
2017-07-12  3:33         ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-12  6:17           ` [bitcoin-dev] how to disable segwit in my build? Dan Libby
2017-07-13  1:04             ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-13 13:11               ` Federico Tenga
2017-07-13 13:39                 ` Hampus Sjöberg
2017-07-13 16:19                   ` Dan Libby
2017-07-13 16:35                     ` Jameson Lopp
2017-07-13 21:58                       ` Dan Libby
2017-07-13 22:50                         ` Hampus Sjöberg
2017-07-13 23:20                           ` Dan Libby
2017-07-14  8:52                             ` Hampus Sjöberg
2017-07-14  9:03                             ` Tier Nolan
2017-07-13 23:19                         ` Lucas Clemente Vella
2017-07-13 16:05               ` Dan Libby
2017-07-14 21:11               ` Troy Benjegerdes
2017-07-13  1:48             ` Anthony Towns
2017-07-13 16:13               ` Dan Libby
2017-07-12  1:22   ` [bitcoin-dev] Updating the Scaling Roadmap Karl Johan Alm
2017-07-12  9:37     ` Tom Zander
2017-07-12  9:02   ` Tom Zander
2017-07-11 23:28 ` Anthony Towns
2017-07-17 17:13 ` [bitcoin-dev] Updating the Scaling Roadmap [Update] Paul Sztorc
2017-07-17 18:49   ` Alex Morcos
2017-07-17 20:13     ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-17 21:50     ` Peter Todd
     [not found]   ` <20170717214704.ksegcrdqf3zeslah@fedora-23-dvm>
2017-07-17 22:04     ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 22:26 [bitcoin-dev] Updating the Scaling Roadmap Steve Davis

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