On Aug 6, 2015 9:42 PM, "Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev" < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: 2. The "market minimum fee" should be determined by the market. It should not be up to us to decide "when is a good time." I partially agree. The community should decide what risks it is willing to take, and set limits accordingly. Let the market decide how that space is best used. > >> >> Would you agree that blocksize increase proposals should have such a >> criterion/test? > > > Although I've been very clear with my criterion, no, I don't think all blocksize increase proposals should have to justify "why this size" or "why this rate of increase." Part of my frustration with this whole debate is we're talking about a sanity-check upper-limit; as long as it doesn't open up some terrible new DoS possibility I don't think it really matters much what the exact number is. It is only a DoS protection limit if you want to rely on trusting miners. I prefer a system where I don't have to do that. But I agree the numbers don't matter much, for a different reason: the market will fill up whatever space is available, and we'll have the same discussion when the new limit doesn't seem enough anymore. -- Pieter