On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:58 AM, Eric Voskuil via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > This sort of statement represents one consequence of the aforementioned > bad precedent. > > Are checkpoints good now? > So far in this discussion, and in a thread that has forked off, I think 3 cases of implementation aspects have been mentioned that under certain circumstances result in the validity of chains changing: * Buried softforks (by simplifying the activation rules for certain rules) * Not verifying BIP30 after BIP34 is active (since only under a SHA256^2 collision a duplicate txid can occur) * The existence (and/or removal) of checkpoints (in one form or another). None of these will influence the accepted main chain, however. If they ever do, Bitcoin has far worse things to worry about (years-deep reorgs, or SHA256 collisions). If you were trying to point out that buried softforks are similar to checkpoints in this regard, I agree. So are checkpoints good now? I believe we should get rid of checkpoints because they seem to be misunderstood as a security feature rather than as an optimization. I don't think buried softforks have that problem. -- Pieter