public inbox for bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl•net>
To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] bitcoin-dev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 4
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2022 13:31:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPweEDwTSDhRav6Uw2iYTKJDZH60D8eoQYSc-VejUXjrTai60g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1654430403.1388.bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>

(apologies i am subscribed digest)

On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 1:00 PM
<bitcoin-dev-request@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2022 04:18:04 +0000
> From: alicexbt <alicexbt@protonmail•com>
> To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
>         <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin covenants are inevitable
> Message-ID:
>         <zyE-uR_2M7vAE8jXf3wthIGQj_-dz9FoL50ERTmCb-MCv4zyMgoHAdSff539SPtROJpJdgrfBspM3IZJrNQ9V4kpDnyMB9X6mlWf0eSk1Rk=@protonmail•com>
> Hi Jorge,
>
>
> Misinformation is false or inaccurate information, especially that which is deliberately intended to deceive.
> A combination of 'misleading' and 'information'.

it's a classic technique that was refined by psy-ops well over
60 years ago.  it should come as no surprise at all that it is
being systematically deployed to undermine bitcoin.
(welcome to the party, all psy-ops teams reading this: i admire your
 persistence and tenacity. you serve an extremely useful purpose
 of detecting flaws in the resilience of bitcoin and its development.)

a potential solution is Trust Metrics. the most successful open
source experiment in that regard was advogato.org by Raph Levien.

i expanded it greatly so that any user could specify the "seeds"
whom *they* trusted, rather than being forced to utilise the fixed
hard-coded user ids in the advogato.org source code (this difference
is extremely important for de-centralisation)

public declarations of trust, and their propagation through standard
Maximum-Flow Graph analysis, helps greatly to filter out the crap.
advogato deflected heavy systematic and sustained spam attacks
thanks to the simple expedient of users declaring publicly whom
they trusted.

a more advanced version of the max-flow concept came up a few
years later called keynote (RFC2704)

the similarity between trust metric evaluation and the bitcoin protocol
is so remarkable that i am, frankly, slightly stunned that it was not
added right from the start.

it is ironic that the lack of integrated trust metric evaluation built-in
to the bitcoin protocol is now hampering developers from being able
to evaluate whom to trust when it comes to protocol development.

l.


       reply	other threads:[~2022-06-05 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.7.1654430403.1388.bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
2022-06-05 12:31 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [this message]
2022-06-08  4:05   ` Billy Tetrud
     [not found]     ` <06BC155F-2EB3-46E0-8A01-2BA5535DA015@gmail.com>
2022-06-15  4:02       ` Billy Tetrud

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=CAPweEDwTSDhRav6Uw2iYTKJDZH60D8eoQYSc-VejUXjrTai60g@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=lkcl@lkcl$(echo .)net \
    --cc=bitcoin-dev@lists$(echo .)linuxfoundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox