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From: Peter R <peter_r@gmx•com>
To: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr•org>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org,
	telemaco <telemaco@neomailbox•net>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [patch] Switching Bitcoin Core to sqlite db
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:17:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F2D5CE08-FEF1-4E56-8B76-3E7964FC1C7B@gmx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201511150304.41003.luke@dashjr.org>


> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 1:02:33 AM Peter R via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>> A group of us have been exploring this “meta-cognition” idea with Bitcoin
>> Unlimited.  For example, Bitcoin Unlimited can be (optionally) made to
>> automatically fork to the longest chain if it “gets stuck” and can neither
>> prove that a block is valid nor that the block is invalid.
> 
> This situation isn't something that can be ignored and simply moved past. If 
> you can't determine the validity of a block, you also cannot process its 
> results correctly. Taking for example the BDB/LevelDB issue, the result was 
> that BDB failed to accept further changes to the UTXO set. Unless the UTXO set 
> could be updated correctly, there is no way to even attempt to validate the 
> next block or any new transactions.

Great point, Luke! 

Indeed, whether the program can or cannot continue after a Type 1 consensus mismatch depends on the specifics of the situation and exactly how the code was written.  But I agree: there are cases where the program *can’t* continue.  In those cases it would halt.  This would require manual intervention to fix but avoids the problem of potential double-spends during the fork event.  This would be preferable to knowingly causing a fork.  

Peter

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-15  3:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-29  6:57 telemaco
2015-10-29  8:03 ` Luke Dashjr
2015-10-30  3:04   ` Simon Liu
2015-10-30  3:35     ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-10-30  4:04       ` Peter R
2015-10-30  4:28         ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-11-15  1:02           ` Peter R
2015-11-15  1:08             ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-11-15  1:45               ` Peter R
2015-11-15  2:10                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-11-15  2:58                   ` Peter R
2015-11-15  3:30                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-11-15  4:10                       ` Peter R
2015-11-15 10:12                         ` Jorge Timón
2015-11-15 11:28                           ` Jorge Timón
2015-11-15 15:48                             ` Peter R
2015-11-15 17:06                           ` Peter R
2015-11-17 13:54                             ` Tamas Blummer
2015-11-17 15:24                               ` Tom Harding
2015-11-17 22:17                                 ` telemaco
2015-11-20 14:15                                   ` Jorge Timón
2015-11-16  1:52                     ` Rusty Russell
2015-11-15  3:04             ` Luke Dashjr
2015-11-15  3:17               ` Peter R [this message]
2015-10-29  8:17 ` Gregory Maxwell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-10-22 21:26 Jeff Garzik
2015-10-22 21:54 ` Patrick Strateman
2015-10-22 21:56 ` Joseph Gleason ⑈
2015-10-23  6:53 ` Jonas Schnelli
2015-10-23  7:45 ` Lucas Betschart
2015-10-28 20:28   ` Sean Lynch
2015-10-28 21:11     ` Jeff Garzik
2015-10-23 10:30 ` Tom Zander
2015-10-26 18:06   ` Douglas Roark
2015-10-28 15:52     ` Tom Zander
2015-11-18  0:06     ` Jonathan Wilkins

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