From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
To: "David A. Harding" <dave@dtrt•org>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Why Full-RBF Makes DoS Attacks on Multiparty Protocols Significantly More Expensive
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 05:06:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y704non5DD5mtxs1@petertodd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6089e1f0140684435bf5e87b0c13d561@dtrt.org>
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 12:02:35AM -1000, David A. Harding wrote:
> On 2023-01-09 22:47, Peter Todd wrote:
> > How do you propose that the participants learn about the double-spend?
> > Without
> > knowing that it happened, they can't respond as you suggested.
>
> I can think of various ways---many of them probably the same ideas that
> would occur to you.
Rather than playing games, how about you actually list those ways.
> More concise than listing them is to just assume
> they exist and realize that any protocol software which wants to defeat
> the $17.00 pinning attack needs to implement some sort of conflict
> monitoring system---but by using that monitoring system to defeat the
> $17.00 pinning attack, the software also defeats the $0.05 individual
> conflicting input attack without any need for full-RBF.
Remember, we'd like decentralized coinjoin implementations like Joinmarket to
work. How does a decentralized coinjoin implement "conflict monitoring"?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-10 10:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-09 22:18 Peter Todd
2023-01-10 7:11 ` David A. Harding
2023-01-10 8:47 ` Peter Todd
2023-01-10 10:02 ` David A. Harding
2023-01-10 10:06 ` Peter Todd [this message]
2023-01-10 20:14 ` David A. Harding
2023-01-13 23:37 ` Peter Todd
2023-01-10 9:19 ` alicexbt
2023-01-10 10:03 ` Peter Todd
2023-01-10 17:10 ` alicexbt
2023-01-13 23:46 ` Peter Todd
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