On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 09:44:10AM -0300, Robert Dickinson via bitcoin-dev wrote: > I'm curious what opinions exist and what actions might be taken by core > developers regarding storing unlimited amounts of NFT (or other?) content > as witness data (https://docs.ordinals.com/inscriptions.html). The ordinal > scheme is elegant and genius IMHO, but when I think about the future disk > use of all unpruned nodes, I question whether unlimited storage is wise to > allow for such use cases. Wouldn't it be better to find a way to impose a > size limit similar to OP_RETURN for such inscriptions? > > I think it would be useful to link a sat to a deed or other legal construct > for proof of ownership in the real world, so that real property can be > transferred on the blockchain using ordinals, but storing the property > itself on the blockchain seems nonsensical to me. Unfortunately, as near as I can tell there is no sensible way to prevent people from storing arbitrary data in witnesses without incentivizing even worse behavior and/or breaking legitimate use cases. If we ban "useless data" then it would be easy for would-be data storers to instead embed their data inside "useful" data such as dummy signatures or public keys. Doing so would incur a ~2x cost to them, but if 2x is enough to disincentivize storage, then there's no need to have this discussion because they will will be forced to stop due to fee market competition anyway. (And if not, it means there is little demand for Bitcoin blockspace, so what's the problem with paying miners to fill it with data that validators don't even need to perform real computation on?). But if we were to ban "useful" data, for example, saying that a witness can't have more than 20 signatures in it, then we are into the same problem we had pre-Taproot: that it is effectively impossible construct signing policies in a general and composeable way, because any software that does so will need to account for multiple independent limits. We deliberately replaced such limits with "you need to pay 50 weight for each signature" to makes this sort of analysis tractable. There's a reasonable argument that this sort of data is toxic to the network, since even though "the market is willing to bear" the price of scares blockspace, if people were storing NFTs and other crap on the chain, then the Bitcoin fee market would become entangled with random pump&dump markets, undermining legitimate use cases and potentially preventing new technology like LN from gaining a strong foothold. But from a technical point of view, I don't see any principled way to stop this. -- Andrew Poelstra Director of Research, Blockstream Email: apoelstra at wpsoftware.net Web: https://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew The sun is always shining in space -Justin Lewis-Webster