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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
To: jlspc <jlspc@protonmail•com>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] CheckTemplateVerify Does Not Scale Due to UTXO's Required For Fee Payment
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 04:49:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zbh/9fKrnid/psA/@petertodd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Gr0X5c-3nQcx-VLD3eQ-e0DoOFim5gUKeyOF5ViYPfjE030KB4QJ2tVyA4wfY64Um_zo0fTfjqkTN11-RcvDeiAVhE2_9VYcQ3kSGFD1dug=@protonmail.com>

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 05:49:26PM +0000, jlspc wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> If feerate-dependent timelocks (FDTs) (1) are supported, it would be possible to use CTV to define a transaction with a fixed fee and no anchor outputs, as long as it's racing against a transaction with an FDT.

Fee-rate-dependant timelocks have obvious issues around manipulation of
observed fee-rates by miners. It not unreasonable to say they assume miners are
honest, which is a significant weakening of the economic incentive-based
security model we usually assume in Bitcoin.

-- 
https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-30  4:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-24 19:31 Peter Todd
2024-01-25 12:57 ` Michael Folkson
2024-01-30  4:12   ` [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] " ZmnSCPxj
2024-01-30  4:38     ` Peter Todd
2024-01-30  5:07       ` ZmnSCPxj
2024-01-30  5:17         ` ZmnSCPxj
2024-01-30  5:55           ` Anthony Towns
2024-01-30  8:40         ` Peter Todd
2024-01-25 17:49 ` [bitcoin-dev] " jlspc
2024-01-30  4:49   ` Peter Todd [this message]
2024-02-20 23:13     ` [bitcoindev] " 'jlspc' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-01-27  6:28 ` Brandon Black
2024-01-30  4:46   ` Peter Todd
     [not found] ` <Plx5nCQxEjS8u-XLGEza0bBGgztkCh7wMTckN95VNqqM6HZfbXxywAqMxiwhO-VIIJq9vioSr7jPwWTIksLkgdTM9aBn6mkmlfHGm-1LhbM=@protonmail.com>
2024-01-30  4:41   ` Peter Todd

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