On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 12:27:06PM -0500, Murch via bitcoin-dev wrote: > I agree in the detail, but not about the big picture. You are right that > it’s a problem that `tx_LM` and `tx_HS` spend the same input and therefore > are direct conflicts. > > Luckily, it is unnecessary for my scenario that `tx_LM` and `tx_HS` > conflict. The scenario only requires that `tx_LM` conflicts with `tx_LL` and > `tx_RBFr`. `tx_HS` is supposed to get dropped indirectly per the conflict > with `tx_LL`. > > It seems to me that my example attack should work when a third confirmed > input `c3` is introduced as follows: > `tx_LM` spends `c3` instead of `c2`, and `tx_RBFr` spends both `c2` and > `c3`, which allows the following four conflicts: > > - `tx_HS` and `tx_RBFr` conflict on spending `c2` > - `tx_HS` and `tx_LS` conflict on spending `tx_LL:0` > - `tx_LL` and `tx_LM` conflict on spending `c1` > - `tx_LM` and `tx_RBFr` conflict on spending `c3` > > `tx_RBFr` would end up slightly bigger and therefore have a bigger fee, but > otherwise the number should work out fine as they are. > I have not verified this yet (thanks for sharing your code), but I might be > able to take another look in the coming week if you haven’t by then. > > It seems to me that my main point stands, though: the proposed RBFr rules > would enable infinite replacement cycles in combination with the existing > RBF rules. Yes, *that* version of the attack does work, and I was able to succesfully create a modified version of the previous script that demonstrates it on a regtest node. The attack is still exploiting a failure of our current RBF rules: the replacement of tx_RBFr with tx_HS represents a fee-rate/mining score decrease that replaces a more profitable transaction, tx_RBFR, with an much less profitable transaction, ts_HS. Notably, I belive that sdaufter's "Enforce incentive compatibility" pull-req(1) would reject it, though I haven't actually tested that. To fix this issue I've added a commit(2) to the libre-relay-v26.0 branch that rejects replacements that spend unconfirmed inputs if the replacement is conflicting with multiple transactions at once. Let's look at why this change fixes the issue, making cycles impossible. Bitcoin Core already uses the term "mining score" to try to measure the profitability of a transaction. We'll define a similar measure, fee-rate-depth, a tuple consisting of the raw fee-rate of a transaction and the depth of the transaction, in terms of the maximum depth of unconfirmed parents that must be mined for the transaction to be mined. The fee-rate-depth is improved if the fee-rate is increased and/or the depth is decreased. For example suppose we have the following unconfirmed transaction graph: t1 <- t2 <- t3 The depth of t1 is 0, as it only spends confirmed inputs. The depth of t2 is 1, as it spends a 0-depth transaction, and the depth of t3 is 2, as it spends a 1-depth transaction. Suppose we have a new transaction, t2b, that conflicts with t2, and with fee-rates t2 < t2b < t3. Assuming that the total fee paid by t2b is high enough, an RBF replacement is allowed: t1 <- t2b While t3 paid a higher fee-rate than t2b, the fee-rate-depth has still improved, because the depth of t2b is less than the depth of t3. With this new change, is the fee-rate-depth always improved? Yes. Rule #6/PaysMoreThanConflicts ensures that the fee-rate of direct conflicts is always improved by the replacement. With *indirect* conflicts, while the fee-rate may or may not be improved, the *depth* is improved, because we are replacing a deeper transaction with a shallower transaction. Secondly, for direct replacements the modified HasNoNewUnconfirmed function ensures that the depth of fee-rate-depth is never made worse by prohibiting the replacement of shallower transactions with deeper transactions. This is impossible because with the new rule, if a transaction has any unconfirme dinputs at all - a non-zero depth - only a single transaction is allowed to be replaced at a time. Thus at worse the depth will remain constant, while rule #6 will ensure that the fee-rate is improved. Obviously, we could probably improve on this further with more nuanced rules. But the HasNoNewUnconfirmed fix is simple to implement, and in practice shouldn't affect very many use-cases. Pretty much all replacements of transactions spending unconfirmed outputs is for CPFP, and I'm not actually aware of any wallets that try to batch CPFP transactions together. There probably are some. But it's certainly not common. That's sufficient for the purposes of Libre Relay, whose replace-by-fee-rate implementation is intended as a prototype to validate the idea. 1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26451 2) https://github.com/petertodd/bitcoin/commit/fec7965277c2287d3eaba59fdc5b75729bd4838a -- https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org