On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 07:13:38PM +0000, Antoine Riard wrote: > > Modulo economic irrationalities with differently sized txs like the Rule > #6 > > attack, the proof-of-UTXO is almost economically paid even when mempools > are > > partitioned because the bandwidth used by a given form of a transaction is > > limited to the % of peers that relay it. Eg if I broadcast TxA to 50% of > nodes, > > and TxB to the other 50%, both spending the same txout, the total cost/KB > used > > in total would exactly the same... except that nodes have more than one > peer. > > This acts as an amplification fator to attacks depending on the exact > topology > > as bandwidth is wasted in proportion to the # of peers txs need to be > broadcast > > too. Basically, a fan-out factor. > > > If the # of peers is reduced, the impact of this type of attack is also > > reduced. Of course, a balance has to be maintained. > > Sure, proof-of-UTXO is imperfectly economically charged, however I think > you can > re-use the same proof-of-UTXO for each subset of Sybilled transaction-relay > peers. Of course you can. That's the whole point of my scenario above: you can re-use the proof-of-UTXO. But since nodes' mempools enforce anti-doublespending, the tradeoff is less total nodes seeing each individual conflicting uses. If, for example, all Bitcoin nodes were somehow peered in a perfect ring, with each node having exactly two peers, the sum total bandwidth of using 2 conflicting proof-of-UTXOs (aka spending the UTXO), would be almost identical to the sum total bandwidth of just using 1. The only additional bandwidth would be the three to four nodes at the "edges" of the ring who saw the two different conflicting versions. With higher #'s of peers, the total maximum extra bandwidth used broadcasting conflicts increases proportionally. -- https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/ZgXJOxBsePn9VAKh%40petertodd.org.