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From: Andrew Poelstra <apoelstra@wpsoftware•net>
To: Ben Carman <benthecarman1@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Development Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Signing a Bitcoin Transaction with Lamport Signatures (no changes needed)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 12:46:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZjzFtus_aBchwKz2@camus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b50b6b09-4d13-46ab-9776-f6b8a02aa2e0n@googlegroups.com>

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On Wed, May 08, 2024 at 05:31:18PM -0700, Ben Carman wrote:
> I think it is possible to get past the 201 op code limit doing it in 
> tapscript. I don't think it would have the same quantum security but could 
> maybe be a path to covenants. My understanding is that you're using the 
> OP_SIZE of the sig to basically decide to verify if the bit is a 0 or a 1, 
> then do that verification. You could do the same trick with schnorr sigs, 
> just for 0 bits don't include the sighash_all flag, and for 1 bits include 
> it. This would allow you to get around all the resource limits that taproot 
> lifted. This still should be safe since the the signature commits to if it 
> is SIGHASH_DEFAULT vs SIGHASH_ALL. I am not sure if this will enable very 
> complex things or just let you do it on 1 bit of information in tapscript.
>

If I'm understanding you right, then what you're signing is your choice
of sighash flags, rather than anything inherent to the transaction. So I
don't think this works.

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Andrew Poelstra
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-09 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-29  0:30 Ethan Heilman
2024-04-30 12:32 ` Matthew Zipkin
2024-04-30 13:25   ` Ethan Heilman
2024-04-30 14:21   ` Andrew Poelstra
2024-04-30 20:43     ` Ethan Heilman
2024-05-01  3:46       ` Antoine Riard
2024-05-01 20:02         ` Ethan Heilman
2024-05-06  7:39     ` David A. Harding
2024-05-06 16:48       ` Andrew Poelstra
2024-05-06 18:56         ` David A. Harding
2024-05-06 19:06           ` Andrew Poelstra
2024-05-07  0:55             ` Antoine Riard
2024-05-07 16:05               ` Ethan Heilman
2024-05-07  4:11             ` David A. Harding
2024-05-07 14:34               ` Andrew Poelstra
2024-05-09  0:31     ` Ben Carman
2024-05-09 12:46       ` Andrew Poelstra [this message]
2024-05-11  2:53         ` Antoine Riard
     [not found]           ` <91ba7058-776d-4ff0-a179-bb2917ef03ffn@googlegroups.com>
     [not found]             ` <CAEM=y+UKgDRtaV5uveiX_Hn1dTDEF-DSHw0SjRu+j0s3fmp78Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <CAOY=fzk+nKBw4kpLJLe=EngNfD5iEsWVsa5sMyPaXKp9cDAqdQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <CAOY=fz=bcun5U75PUJJGuuB7p5dHtghrYf9gfOvj4zpiWdM_Tg@mail.gmail.com>
2024-10-25  0:20                   ` Vicky
2024-10-25  9:58                     ` Garlo Nicon
2024-11-15 21:54     ` Xiaohui Liu
2024-11-16 14:55       ` Ethan Heilman
     [not found]         ` <CAMrCH3hCN0KAiE0AdLTA8i004-R9FACpMZvQTiM_78RAxf1zbA@mail.gmail.com>
2024-11-17 21:59           ` Ethan Heilman

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