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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
To: /dev /fd0 <alicexbtong@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Development Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Relax OP_RETURN standardness restrictions
Date: Fri, 2 May 2025 20:10:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBUmn9HIYj06vbsX@petertodd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47454755-7c6c-458b-9545-8c8657b640f1n@googlegroups.com>

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On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 12:04:13PM -0700, /dev /fd0 wrote:
> Config `mempoolfullrbf` was added in July 2022: 
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25353
> It was made default in August 2024: 
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30493
> Option was removed in November 2024: 
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30592
> 
> `datacarrier` and `datacarriersize` already exist, so why is it a big deal 
> to remove them after a few months of monitoring the usage with stats? 

The `mempoolfullrbf` option was a good example of how keeping an option
to reject otherwise standard transactions is just wasted effort. Having
the option didn't stop full-rbf replacements from getting mined; user's
refusing to relay a transaction type that a significant % of miners are
mining acomplishes nothing.

In that *specific* case there were a tiny number of users, Wasabi's
Coordinator being an example, where for technical reasons full-rbf
replacements caused problems until that code was fixed; giving those
users an option to temporarily disable those replacements was sort of
useful. But there's no reason to think that will be true with OP_Return
outputs, and in any case, you can just delaying upgrading your node
while you fix your broken code.

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      reply	other threads:[~2025-05-02 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-17 18:52 [bitcoindev] " 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-04-18 12:03 ` Sjors Provoost
2025-04-18 12:54   ` Greg Sanders
2025-04-18 13:06     ` Vojtěch Strnad
2025-04-18 13:29     ` 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-04-18 21:34       ` Antoine Riard
2025-04-20  8:43 ` Peter Todd
2025-04-26  9:50 ` Luke Dashjr
2025-04-26 10:53   ` Sjors Provoost
2025-04-26 11:35     ` Luke Dashjr
2025-04-26 11:45       ` Sjors Provoost
2025-04-26 12:48       ` Pieter Wuille
2025-04-28 16:20         ` Jason Hughes (wk057)
2025-04-29 14:51           ` Sjors Provoost
2025-04-30 15:37             ` Nagaev Boris
2025-04-30 16:30               ` Sjors Provoost
2025-04-29 19:20           ` Martin Habovštiak
2025-04-30  0:10             ` Jason Hughes
2025-05-01 17:40               ` Andrew Toth
2025-04-30  5:39             ` Chris Guida
2025-04-30 16:37               ` Anthony Towns
2025-05-01  4:57                 ` Chris Guida
2025-05-01 19:33                   ` Nagaev Boris
2025-05-02  6:34                   ` Anthony Towns
2025-05-02 18:29                     ` Peter Todd
2025-05-03  5:14                       ` 'nsvrn' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-05-01  3:01         ` Anthony Towns
2025-05-01 22:40 ` [bitcoindev] " 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-05-02  0:14   ` PandaCute
2025-05-02 11:16     ` [bitcoindev] " Sjors Provoost
2025-05-02 14:37       ` 'nsvrn' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-05-02 16:43         ` Greg Maxwell
2025-05-02 13:58     ` [bitcoindev] " Bob Burnett
2025-05-02 20:03   ` [bitcoindev] Removing OP_Return restrictions: Devil's Advocate Position Peter Todd
2025-05-02 22:58     ` [bitcoindev] " Greg Maxwell
2025-05-03  2:02       ` Martin Habovštiak
2025-05-02  6:29 ` [bitcoindev] Re: Relax OP_RETURN standardness restrictions Greg Maxwell
2025-05-02  9:51   ` Anthony Towns
2025-05-02 17:36     ` Greg Maxwell
2025-05-02 20:43     ` Peter Todd
2025-05-02 19:04   ` /dev /fd0
2025-05-02 20:10     ` Peter Todd [this message]

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