On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 07:51:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > I think there's perhaps four conclusions you could reasonably draw about > the policies above, wrt what's been discussed on this topic: > > * encouraging data storage people to use commitments (7) didn't really > work, and given that could be done via documentation or blog posts At the moment the OpenTimestamps calendars I run are getting about 2.1 timestamp requests per second according to my logs (I keep two weeks worth). In the past, people who *genuinely* needed mere timestamping were inefficiently using OP_Return for it. A bit of education - and an alternative that actually worked - has almost entirely eliminated that usage and replaced it with something drastically more efficient. The problem is, only a subset of use-cases can get away with mere commitments. Citrea itself is an example: they genuinely need proof-of-publication. A commitment is not enough. No amount of "education" is going to convince them otherwise. Keep in mind that Lightning also uses proof-of-publication: if an HTLC goes on chain, spending it via the pre-image ensures that the pre-image is published, ensuring the next party in the route also learns the pre-image. It's a basic building block of lots of consensus algorithms. -- https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/aBUuY1k9oswEAEom%40petertodd.org.