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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
To: Matt Corallo <lf-lists@mattcorallo•com>
Cc: Andrew Poelstra <apoelstra@wpsoftware•net>,
	"David A. Harding" <dave@dtrt•org>,
	James O'Beirne <james.obeirne@gmail•com>,
	Bitcoin Development Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] CTV + CSFS: a letter
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:52:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aEmKEpGbPJeWQ75Z@petertodd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1147a254-5033-4663-99f0-7e98a5b6b6c0@mattcorallo.com>

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On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 01:17:07PM -0400, Matt Corallo wrote:
> The relay changes you mention but sweep under the rug are a critical
> improvement to the security model and usability of lightning, a
> widely-deployed and now highly utilized critical piece of bitcoin (Cash
> App's public numbers from the Vegas conference indicate its about 25% of
> their withdraw volume by count!).

The relay changes are also very important to to future L2 designs too. E.g. if
Ark is to be actually be a non-custodial L2 where unilateral withdrawal
actually works, it needs to be able to avoid transaction pinning and flexibly
pay for transaction fees at least as much as Lightning does. 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-12  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-09 11:40 James O'Beirne
2025-06-09 12:51 ` Michael Folkson
2025-06-09 14:41   ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-09 15:56     ` Michael Folkson
2025-06-09 13:51 ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-09 14:43   ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-09 17:51     ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-09 19:27       ` /dev /fd0
2025-06-09 21:12         ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-09 18:55 ` 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-06-10  2:02   ` Paul Sztorc
2025-06-09 23:02 ` Andrew Poelstra
2025-06-10  2:08   ` David A. Harding
2025-06-10 13:23     ` Andrew Poelstra
2025-06-10 17:17       ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-10 23:42         ` Antoine Riard
2025-06-12  3:34           ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-10 23:42         ` Antoine Riard
2025-06-11 13:52         ` Peter Todd [this message]
2025-06-10 14:03     ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-10 16:56       ` Sjors Provoost
2025-06-10 17:15         ` 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-06-10 19:04         ` Paul Sztorc
2025-06-11 18:09         ` Brandon Black
2025-06-10  2:28   ` Melvin Carvalho
2025-06-10 13:19     ` Greg Sanders
2025-06-11 14:12       ` James O'Beirne
     [not found]         ` <CAB3F3Dsf8=rbOyPf1yTQDzyQQX6FAoJWTg16VC8PVs4_uBkeTw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-06-11 16:50           ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-11 18:34             ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-11 20:30             ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-12  0:59               ` Harsha Goli
2025-06-12 18:04                 ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-12 18:38                   ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-12 18:43                     ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-12 19:51                     ` Andrew Poelstra
2025-06-12 22:44                       ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-12  2:06 ` Greg Maxwell
2025-06-12  3:23   ` James O'Beirne

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