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From: "David A. Harding" <dave@dtrt•org>
To: Anthony Towns <aj@erisian•com.au>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Automatically reverting ("transitory") soft forks, e.g. for CTV
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 15:44:41 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c62c913ac4e36182f719ddb754a0f754@dtrt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220422002840.GB5616@erisian.com.au>

On 21.04.2022 14:28, Anthony Towns wrote:
> But, if [it's true that "many [...] use cases [...] to use CTV for
> are very long term in nature"], that's presumably incompatible
> with any sort of sunset that's less than many decades away, so doesn't
> seem much better than just having it be available on a signet?

I fully acknowledge that a temporary test can't fully replicate a 
permanent condition.  That said, if people truly believe CTV vaults will 
significantly enhance their security, wouldn't it be worth using them 
for most of the deployment?  Users would receive both years of added 
security and the opportunity to convince other Bitcoiners to make CTV 
permanent by demonstrating real-world usage.

> If sunsetting were a good idea, one way to think about implementing it
> might be to code it as:
> 
>   if (DeploymentActiveAfter(pindexPrev, params, FOO) &&
>       !DeploymentActiveAfter(pindexPrev, params, FOO_SUNSET))
>   {
>       EnforceFoo();
>   }

Defining at the outset how we'll signal years later if we want to keep 
the rules seems intelligent to me.

Thanks!,

-Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-22  1:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-21  1:04 David A. Harding
2022-04-21  2:05 ` Luke Dashjr
2022-04-21  3:10   ` alicexbt
2022-04-21  5:56     ` Luke Dashjr
2022-04-21  6:20       ` Jeremy Rubin
2022-04-21  6:37         ` Luke Dashjr
2022-04-21 13:10           ` Jeremy Rubin
2022-04-24 15:22     ` Peter Todd
2022-04-21 14:58 ` Matt Corallo
2022-04-21 18:06   ` David A. Harding
2022-04-21 18:39     ` Matt Corallo
2022-04-21 22:28       ` David A. Harding
2022-04-21 23:02         ` Matt Corallo
2022-04-22  1:20           ` David A. Harding
2022-04-22 18:40             ` Matt Corallo
2022-04-22 18:49               ` Corey Haddad
2022-04-22 16:48         ` James O'Beirne
2022-04-22 17:06           ` James O'Beirne
2022-04-22 16:28       ` James O'Beirne
2022-04-22 17:25         ` [bitcoin-dev] Vaulting (Was: Automatically reverting ("transitory") soft forks) Russell O'Connor
2022-04-23  4:56           ` Billy Tetrud
2022-04-23 14:02             ` Russell O'Connor
2022-04-23 18:24           ` Matt Corallo
2022-04-23 19:30             ` Russell O'Connor
2022-04-24 23:03               ` Billy Tetrud
2022-04-25 17:27                 ` Nadav Ivgi
2022-04-25 22:27                 ` Russell O'Connor
2022-04-27  1:52                   ` Billy Tetrud
2022-04-28 23:14                     ` Nadav Ivgi
2022-04-28 23:51                       ` Billy Tetrud
2022-04-22 18:35         ` [bitcoin-dev] Automatically reverting ("transitory") soft forks, e.g. for CTV Matt Corallo
2022-04-21 19:08 ` Jeremy Rubin
2022-04-22  0:28 ` Anthony Towns
2022-04-22  1:44   ` David A. Harding [this message]
2022-04-22 19:57 ` Antoine Riard
2022-04-25  5:12 ` ZmnSCPxj
2022-04-22 19:05 alicexbt

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