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From: insecurity@national•shitposting.agency
To: Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposed alternatives to the 20MB step function
Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 14:00:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c7638510161365275aeaeabf121031bc@national.shitposting.agency> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABsx9T23r_y2R9OEgqb3AAZf47Hh8BUJncjxxmPp5v_9uKEiqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Are you really that pig headed that you are going to try and blow up the 
entire system just to get your way? A bunch of ignorant redditors do not 
make consensus, mercifully.


On 2015-05-29 12:39, Gavin Andresen wrote:
> What do other people think?
> 
> If we can't come to an agreement soon, then I'll ask for help
> reviewing/submitting patches to Mike's Bitcoin-Xt project that
> implement a big increase now that grows over time so we may never have
> to go through all this rancor and debate again.
> 
> I'll then ask for help lobbying the merchant services and exchanges
> and hosted wallet companies and other bitcoind-using-infrastructure
> companies (and anybody who agrees with me that we need bigger blocks
> sooner rather than later) to run Bitcoin-Xt instead of Bitcoin Core,
> and state that they are running it. We'll be able to see uptake on the
> network by monitoring client versions.
> 
> Perhaps by the time that happens there will be consensus bigger blocks
> are needed sooner rather than later; if so, great! The early
> deployment will just serve as early testing, and all of the software
> already deployed will ready for bigger blocks.
> 
> But if there is still no consensus among developers but the "bigger
> blocks now" movement is successful, I'll ask for help getting big
> miners to do the same, and use the soft-fork block version voting
> mechanism to (hopefully) get a majority and then a super-majority
> willing to produce bigger blocks. The purpose of that process is to
> prove to any doubters that they'd better start supporting bigger
> blocks or they'll be left behind, and to give them a chance to upgrade
> before that happens.
> 
> Because if we can't come to consensus here, the ultimate authority for
> determining consensus is what code the majority of merchants and
> exchanges and miners are running.
> 
> --
> 
> --
> Gavin Andresen
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-29 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-08  7:20 Matt Whitlock
2015-05-08 10:15 ` Mike Hearn
2015-05-08 10:30 ` Clément Elbaz
2015-05-08 12:32   ` Joel Joonatan Kaartinen
2015-05-08 12:48     ` Matt Whitlock
2015-05-08 13:24       ` Matt Whitlock
2015-05-08 12:48     ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-08 16:51     ` Peter Todd
2015-05-08 22:36       ` Joel Joonatan Kaartinen
2015-05-09 18:30         ` Peter Todd
2015-05-08 15:57 ` Alex Mizrahi
2015-05-08 16:55 ` Bryan Bishop
2015-05-08 20:33 ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-05-08 22:43   ` Aaron Voisine
2015-05-08 22:45     ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-05-08 23:15       ` Aaron Voisine
2015-05-08 23:58         ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-05-09  3:36   ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-05-09 11:58     ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-09 13:49       ` Tier Nolan
2015-05-10 17:36     ` Owen Gunden
2015-05-10 18:10       ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-05-10 21:21     ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-10 21:33       ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-05-10 21:56       ` Rob Golding
2015-05-13 10:43     ` Tier Nolan
2015-05-16  0:22       ` Rusty Russell
2015-05-16 11:09         ` Tier Nolan
2015-05-18  1:42           ` Rusty Russell
2015-05-19  8:59             ` Tier Nolan
2015-05-10 21:48   ` Thomas Voegtlin
2015-05-10 22:31     ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-05-10 23:11       ` Thomas Voegtlin
2015-05-28 15:53 ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-28 17:05   ` Mike Hearn
2015-05-28 17:19     ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-28 17:34       ` Mike Hearn
2015-05-28 18:23         ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-29 11:26           ` Mike Hearn
2015-05-29 11:42             ` Tier Nolan
2015-05-29 11:57               ` Mike Hearn
2015-05-29 12:39                 ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-29 14:00                   ` insecurity [this message]
2015-05-29 14:15                     ` Braun Brelin
2015-05-29 14:09                   ` Tier Nolan
2015-05-29 14:20                     ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-29 14:22                       ` Mike Hearn
2015-05-29 14:21                     ` Mike Hearn
2015-05-29 14:22                     ` Tier Nolan
2015-05-29 16:39                       ` [Bitcoin-development] Proposed alternatives to the 20MB stepfunction Raystonn .
2015-05-29 18:28                         ` Tier Nolan
2015-05-29 17:53                   ` [Bitcoin-development] Proposed alternatives to the 20MB step function Admin Istrator
2015-05-30  9:03                     ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-01 11:30                       ` Ricardo Filipe
2015-06-01 11:46                         ` Marcel Jamin
2015-05-29 18:47                   ` Bryan Cheng
2015-05-30  1:36                     ` Cameron Garnham
2015-05-28 17:39       ` [Bitcoin-development] Proposed alternatives to the 20MB stepfunction Raystonn .
2015-05-28 17:59         ` Pieter Wuille
2015-05-28 18:21           ` Gavin Andresen
2015-05-28 17:50       ` [Bitcoin-development] Proposed alternatives to the 20MB step function Peter Todd
2015-05-28 17:14   ` Thomas Voegtlin
2015-05-28 17:34   ` Pieter Wuille
2015-05-29 17:45   ` Aaron Voisine
2015-05-08 14:57 Steven Pine
2015-05-09  0:13 Raystonn
     [not found] <CAAjy6kDdB8uODpPcmS8h4eap8fke7Y2y773NHJZja8tB5mPk4Q@mail.gmail.com>
2015-05-28 16:30 ` Steven Pine
     [not found]   ` <CABsx9T03aNRC5DRbR06nNtsiBdJAcQsGAHvbCOe3pnuRpdvq5w@mail.gmail.com>
2015-05-28 18:25     ` Steven Pine
2015-05-28 18:31       ` Gavin Andresen

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